Is the teaching of Jesus before His crucifixion only for Jews?

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So you believe Jesus ask the 11 preach law of Moses after resurrection or not?
You don't understand my point is it?

Jews grew up memorizing the Law of Moses when they were young.
 

Kolistus

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It’s because you won’t change your mind anyway.

Kingdom of God is not equivalent to salvation here
How do you know I wont change my mind? I am always willing to change my mind if evidence is presented.

What is the kingdom of God equivalent then?
 

Kolistus

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It’s because you won’t change your mind anyway.

Kingdom of God is not equivalent to salvation here
Do you think I enjoy my losable salvation stance? Of course not: I would wish nothing more that OSAS be true.
 
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Do you think I enjoy my losable salvation stance? Of course not: I would wish nothing more that OSAS be true.
Well, Paul's letters for the Body of Christ from Romans to Philemon is about OSAS, for example Romans 5:12-19.

Think of it this way, when you were in the first Adam, was that anything you can do, other than turning to Christ, that can make you lose your sinful nature?

If you want to take a passage that mention not inheriting the kingdom of God, which has nothing to do with salvation, to overturn the rest of what he taught us, that is a choice you are making.
 

Kolistus

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Well, Paul's letters for the Body of Christ from Romans to Philemon is about OSAS, for example Romans 5:12-19.

Think of it this way, when you were in the first Adam, was that anything you can do, other than turning to Christ, that can make you lose your sinful nature?

If you want to take a passage that mention not inheriting the kingdom of God, which has nothing to do with salvation, to overturn the rest of what he taught us, that is a choice you are making.
I still want you to tell me. What does not inherit the kingdom of God mean? You have told me what it doesn't mean. Not what it does.
 

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Some people believe not all New Testament is for Christian, and some believe the book of James only for the nation of Israel.

What do you take on this view?
In your Title, you speak about the teachings of Jesus before His crucifixion. What teachings do we have from Jesus after his crucifixion? How are his teachings not for all mankind? Did he not die for all mankind?
 

Jackson123

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Jesus in Matt 28, which is your favorite version of the GC, also command them to teach all nations to obey everything he commanded, which also include the Law of Moses.
You don't understand my point is it?

Jews grew up memorizing the Law of Moses when they were young.
You say :" Jesus command them to teach all nations obey law of Moses

Than you say all nation is jew and you give a verse in act2:5

Than you say Jew memorizing law of Moses (no need to teach law of Moses to Jews )
 

Jackson123

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In your Title, you speak about the teachings of Jesus before His crucifixion. What teachings do we have from Jesus after his crucifixion? How are his teachings not for all mankind? Did he not die for all mankind?
I agree that the teaching of Jesus is for all, not only Jews
But some people don't, for example brother Guojing
 

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I agree that the teaching of Jesus is for all, not only Jews
But some people don't, for example brother Guojing
If Jesus did not intend for his teachings to apply to all mankind, then why did he pray for all? He clearly prayed to the Father concerning those alive at that time, and all that would follow.

Neither I pray for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word. John 17:20

Clearly Jesus intended for all to receive his teachings, and to do so through the words of the disciples. Another Scripture speaks of the need for Preachers to preach the teachings of Jesus so that people can believe. Jesus went to Gentiles also, and taught them. He taught an entire village of Gentiles when he spoke with the woman at the well.
 

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If Jesus did not intend for his teachings to apply to all mankind, then why did he pray for all? He clearly prayed to the Father concerning those alive at that time, and all that would follow.

Neither I pray for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word. John 17:20

Clearly Jesus intended for all to receive his teachings, and to do so through the words of the disciples. Another Scripture speaks of the need for Preachers to preach the teachings of Jesus so that people can believe. Jesus went to Gentiles also, and taught them. He taught an entire village of Gentiles when he spoke with the woman at the well.
Yep and Jesus command his disciple to preach the gospel to all nation

Matt 28
 

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Some people believe not all New Testament is for Christian, and some believe the book of James only for the nation of Israel.

What do you take on this view?
No. Jesus was for all the worlds sinners.
Read John 10
And I have other sheep which are not of this fold. It behooves Me to bring those also, and they will hear My voice, and there will be one flock with one shepherd.
 

Jackson123

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No. Jesus was for all the worlds sinners.
Read John 10
And I have other sheep which are not of this fold. It behooves Me to bring those also, and they will hear My voice, and there will be one flock with one shepherd.
Yep, Jesus invite every body to believe in Him
 
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You say :" Jesus command them to teach all nations obey law of Moses

Than you say all nation is jew and you give a verse in act2:5

Than you say Jew memorizing law of Moses (no need to teach law of Moses to Jews )
Yes, and your point is?

Jesus made additions to the Law of Moses throughout the 4 gospels correct, for example, the Sermon on the Mount.