We are adopted children of God,as soon as we are saved.
What future adoption?
God adopted me as soon as I was saved....testifying to my Spirit that I am his child.....
Chosen by God - A study in Election
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We are adopted children of God,as soon as we are saved.
What future adoption?
God adopted me as soon as I was saved....testifying to my Spirit that I am his child.....
That is NOT what I said. I said that God is explicitly choosing persons TO BELIVE, these believers having no influence whatsoever in His gracious choice.
Eph 1:4
For He chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight.
Absolutely incorrect. This phenomenon is happening now, during our earthy pilgrimage. Does it also occurr in the heavenlies? Nobody knows.
We currently have the Spirit of adoption, but the adoption is future. It's the redemption of our bodies.
Romans 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
Does it say that ? Eisegesis (/ˌaɪsɪˈdʒiːsɪs/) is the process of interpreting text in such a way as to introduce one's own presuppositions, agendas or biases. It is commonly referred to as reading into the text. ... Exegesis is drawing out text's meaning in accordance with the author's context and discoverable meaning.
God. Before the foundation of the world. Ephesians ch 1 is boilerplate doctrine. Not addled ramblings, ancillary commentary, or tangential opinions.
God's gracious choice is to choose ALL HUMANITY for salvation. But unless a sinner obeys the Gospel, he will remain lost.
Looks like you remain in bondage to false doctrine. So here's something to wake you up: Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. (Isa 45:22)
let's stick to the text please. Does it Say God appointed them ?Eisegesis (/ˌaɪsɪˈdʒiːsɪs/) is the process of interpreting text in such a way as to introduce one's own presuppositions, agendas or biases. It is commonly referred to as reading into the text. ... Exegesis is drawing out text's meaning in accordance with the author's context and discoverable meaning.
Then read vese 46 .
The word for "appointed" is G5021 "tetagmenoi / tasso"... and under HELPS Word-Studies at BibleHub, says this: "[5021 (tássō) was "primarily a military term meaning 'to draw up in order, arrange in place, assign, appoint, order' " (A-S).]" [bold and underline mine]
There is some question as to whether the word in this verse is "Middle Voice" or "Passive Voice" (passive would mean this was done unto them [entirely by someone else], but the middle voice would not).
https://biblehub.com/text/acts/13-48.htm [middle or passive: "M/P"]
This is when we look to the rest of the CONTEXT to see if there are any other clues that would inform us... and there are: In verses 42-46.
[verse 46 also speaks of an ORDER: "*first*" to the Jews, right?]AgreeThe word for "appointed" is G5021 "tetagmenoi / tasso"... and under HELPS Word-Studies at BibleHub, says this: "[5021 (tássō) was "primarily a military term meaning 'to draw up in order, arrange in place, assign, appoint, order' " (A-S).]" [bold and underline mine]
There is some question as to whether the word in this verse is "Middle Voice" or "Passive Voice" (passive would mean this was done unto them [entirely by someone else], but the middle voice would not).
https://biblehub.com/text/acts/13-48.htm [middle or passive: "M/P"]
This is when we look to the rest of the CONTEXT to see if there are any other clues that would inform us... and there are: In verses 42-46.
42¶And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
43Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.
44¶And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
45But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming.
46Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.
The word for "appointed" is G5021 "tetagmenoi / tasso"... and under HELPS Word-Studies at BibleHub, says this: "[5021 (tássō) was "primarily a military term meaning 'to draw up in order, arrange in place, assign, appoint, order' " (A-S).]" [bold and underline mine]
There is some question as to whether the word in this verse is "Middle Voice" or "Passive Voice" (passive would mean this was done unto them [entirely by someone else], but the middle voice would not).
https://biblehub.com/text/acts/13-48.htm [middle or passive: "M/P"]
This is when we look to the rest of the CONTEXT to see if there are any other clues that would inform us... and there are: In verses 42-46.
Sorry.....I don’t interpret it as you do....so disagree.
Show me in scripture,But unless a sinner obeys the gospel he will remain lost?
I have asked you this on a number of occasions..yet you produce nothing.
I was saved,without reading a bible,so are many others?
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