Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot

[jackrosie]

God saves all sinners the same way. You are no exception.

Unless a sinner (1) hears the preaching of the Gospel, or reads the Gospel in the Bible, (2) believes on the Lord Jesus Christ and His finished work of redemption (how Christ died for YOUR sins, and rose again for YOUR justification as stated in 1 Corinthians 15:1-3), and (3) repents (turns from sins and idols and turns to the living God), he or she cannot be saved.

There are many examples in Scripture to show how people are saved by grace through faith. And faith is generated by the Gospel itself -- the power of God unto salvation (Rom 1:16).

There is nowhere in the bible that says........”God can only save you if you read your bible,God will not save you if you haven’t read a bible beforehand “....please quote scripture where it say that.?

 

[jackrosie]

Do you see the difference between using scripture (1 Cor 15:14), vs what you are appealing to, which leans more towards emotions?

In an internet forum, where you are discussing doctrine with strangers around the world, its best to rely more on scripture to make your point.

God is in my heart....I quote scripture,I also speak from the heart.
Luke 6:45

The good person out of the good treasure of his heart,produces good,and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil,for out of the abundance of the His heart his mouth speaks.

Nothing to do with my emotions.

 

[jackrosie]

Ephesians 3:14

For this reason I kneel before the Father,from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name.
I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with the power through his Spirit in your inner being,so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith.

 

[Guojing]

God is in my heart....I quote scripture,I also speak from the heart.
Luke 6:45

The good person out of the good treasure of his heart,produces good,and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil,for out of the abundance of the His heart his mouth speaks.

Nothing to do with my emotions.

Do you know what 1 Cor 15:14 says about the prime importance of Christ resurrection?

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[Jackson123]

As it says, it is how one gets saved, the clearest explanation of the gospel that saves NOW.

2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

Save if you hold firmly to the word I preach

How about I hold firmly for 10 years and lose ( not hold it anymore) it a day before I die. Do I save?

 

[jackrosie]

Do you know what 1 Cor 15:14 says about the prime importance of Christ resurrection?

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Give me time to read it...I will get back to you later.

 

[jackrosie]

Ephesians 3:17-19

Then Christ will make his home in your hearts as you trust in him.
Your roots will grow down into God’s love and keep you strong.
And may you have the power to understand,as all God’s people should,how wide,how long,how high,and how deep his love is.
May you experience the love of Christ,though it is too great to understand fully.
Then you will be made complete with all the fullness of life and power that comes from God.

 

[jackrosie]

Do you know what 1 Cor 15:14 says about the prime importance of Christ resurrection?

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Paul teaches us in 1 Corinthians :15-17

If Christ has not been raised,your faith is futile and you are still in your sins,and you do not have salvation.

 

[dcontroversal]

God saves all sinners the same way. You are no exception.

Unless a sinner (1) hears the preaching of the Gospel, or reads the Gospel in the Bible, (2) believes on the Lord Jesus Christ and His finished work of redemption (how Christ died for YOUR sins, and rose again for YOUR justification as stated in 1 Corinthians 15:1-3), and (3) repents (turns from sins and idols and turns to the living God), he or she cannot be saved.

There are many examples in Scripture to show how people are saved by grace through faith. And faith is generated by the Gospel itself -- the power of God unto salvation (Rom 1:16).

Amen...there is NO salvation without scripture....regardless of who believes and blathers on about being saved without scripture!!

 

[dcontroversal]

I wouldn’t be so bold to say how God saves his children,because I don’t know....but some on here do think they know how God saves his children.
The rest of your post doesn’t make sense.

There you have it folks in a nutshell.....the BIBLE is absolutely CLEAR on how God saves his children....and the fact that you claim salvation without the bible and then make that statement about not even KNOWING HOW GOD saves his children, disqualifies you from even saying that you know anything biblical and too be FRANK, is very ALARMING.....TRAGIC!

 

[Magenta]

It absolutely WOULD mean all are saved.

If Jesus paid for the sins of ALL humanity then God has nothing to judge anyone by. The Blood of Jesus has Atoned for EVERYONE. Therefore, everyone is saved.

This, of course, is NOT true. God has plenty to judge people by. Because the Atonement of Christ is only for Believers that have been drawn by God to Christ.

Since we are saved by grace through faith, faith is a very important element of salvation, and it cannot be said, therefore, that Jesus dying for all means everyone is saved, because, not being found in Christ at the end of this age, due to being devoid of faith, the lost shall perish, as Scripture affirms in a multitude of verses. I realize I am responding to an older post here, but I have been absent a couple of weeks and then some, and this is the page I landed on

 

[jackrosie]

There you have it folks in a nutshell.....the BIBLE is absolutely CLEAR on how God saves his children....and the fact that you claim salvation without the bible and then make that statement about not even KNOWING HOW GOD saves his children, disqualifies you from even saying that you know anything biblical and too be FRANK, is very ALARMING.....TRAGIC!

Haaaaahaha.....show me scripture where it says you must read your bible to receive salvation,hahaha.

You even denied scripture,that Christ dwell in the heart of a believer...hahaha...glad I stopped following you....your teaching is false.

You hate the truth and you well and truly rise up to it!......shocking!

God testified to my spirit that I was his child..bought a bible and there it was....scriptural.

You speak vileness from your heart.

 

[dcontroversal]

Haaaaahaha.....show me scripture where it says you must read your bible to receive salvation,hahaha.

You even denied scripture,that Christ dwell in the heart of a believer...hahaha...glad I stopped following you....your teaching is false.

You hate the truth and you well and truly rise up to it!......shocking!

God testified to my spirit that I was his child..bought a bible and there it was....scriptural.

You speak vileness from your heart.

@Oncefallen this crosses the line....

 

[EleventhHour]

Haaaaahaha.....show me scripture where it says you must read your bible to receive salvation,hahaha.

You even denied scripture,that Christ dwell in the heart of a believer...hahaha...glad I stopped following you....your teaching is false.

You hate the truth and you well and truly rise up to it!......shocking!

God testified to my spirit that I was his child..bought a bible and there it was....scriptural.

You speak vileness from your heart.

You are way out of line here!!

 

[jackrosie]

@Oncefallen this crosses the line....

As does @dcontroversal posts cross the line @Oncefallen ....accusing me of not being saved..because I was saved before I read any scripture.

 

[dcontroversal]

Haaaaahaha.....show me scripture where it says you must read your bible to receive salvation,hahaha.

You even denied scripture,that Christ dwell in the heart of a believer...hahaha...glad I stopped following you....your teaching is false.

You hate the truth and you well and truly rise up to it!......shocking!

God testified to my spirit that I was his child..bought a bible and there it was....scriptural.

You speak vileness from your heart.

For the record....I never denied any such thing...I said SHOW ME A VERSE VERBATIM THAT SAYS THE HOLY SPIRIT DWELLS IN YOUR HEART.

And if need BE, I WILL GO CUT AND PASTE the whole conversation to prove you are being dishonest!

 

[jackrosie]

You are way out of line here!!!

So are some of your posts way out of line....as are @dcontroversal ...accusing me of not being born again....because God Saved me with out reading a bible......your posts are vile to me and a moderator will see that.

You are a gang.....he will see that.

 

[dcontroversal]

As does @dcontroversal posts cross the line @Oncefallen ....accusing me of not being saved..because I was saved before I read any scripture.

I never accused you of anything...I DID SAY ONE MUST HAVE THE BIBLE/WORD OF GOD TO BE SAVED!

Man are you dishonest!

 

[EleventhHour]

As does @dcontroversal posts cross the line @Oncefallen ....accusing me of not being saved..because I was saved before I read any scripture.

No-one has ever made that accusation.
The point is no one is saved apart from hearing, knowing the Gospel!!!

 

[jackrosie]

Foe the record....I never denied any such thing...I said SHOW ME A VERSE VWRBATIN THAT SAYS THE HOLY SPIRIT DWELLS IN YOUR HEART.

And if need BE, I WILL GO CUT AND PASTE the whole conversation to prove you are being dishonest!

Do it then cut and paste...I will also quote all you vile insulting posts to me and others,including your mate Dusky and Eleventhhour.