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How long do you think the Tribulation Saints will last, once the Antichrist starts to chop off heads? Maybe a Month or Two at the most, IMO, and the TIME of the Gentiles will be COMPLETE when the Last of the Tribulation Saints, except for the 144,000 JEWS Sealed in their Mortal Bodies, are beheaded. Then the Unbelievers and Jews will be left, and they come FULL FORCE with most of the ARMIES of the WORLD, out to kill the JEWS, except for the 144,000 SEALED.
I believe the Time of the Gentles is a SYNONYM for the CHURCH-AGE.
Matthew 19:30 (HCSB)
30 But many who are first will be last, and the last first.
I believe that is referring to COVENANTS, thus the Time of the Gentiles ends first, then the 70th Week of Daniel.
Revelation 6:9-11 (HCSB)
9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the people slaughtered because of God’s word and the testimony they had.
10 They cried out with a loud voice: “Lord, the One who is holy and true, how long until You judge and avenge our blood from those who live on the earth?”
11 So a white robe was given to each of them, and they were told to rest a little while longer until ⌊the number⌋ would be completed ⌊of⌋ their fellow slaves and their brothers, who were going to be killed just as they had been.
Revelation 20:4 (HCSB)
4 Then I saw thrones, and people seated on them who were given authority to judge. ⌊I⌋ also ⌊saw⌋ the people who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of God’s word, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and who had not accepted the mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with the Messiah for 1,000 years.
Okay, back to the NEWS.
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I believe the time of the gentile is completed when Jesu defeats the final gentile empire and sets up his throne in Jerusalem.
I believe many gentile and jew alike will be saved during the tribulation aNd “endure to the end” hence witness the return of Christ
Doesn't it bother you to have two covenants running at the same time? The final stage of the CHURCH-age, and the 70th Week of Daniel, which is the JACOB's Trouble you referred to. I think the CHURCH-age has to end, before JACOB's Trouble, can begin.
Now I MUST give you some NEWS, that You may not have never heard before:
That is how close most Jews want the TEMPLE to the Dome of the ROCK, if the put it in the Southeast Corner. That is just SO WRONG, AND HERE IS WHY. EVERY STATEMENT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE, BUT THE JEWS WOULD HAVE DENY IT AND SAY NO TO ALL OF THEM:
NO LEVEL BEDROCK UNDER IT FOR THE ORIGINAL THRESHING FLOOR OF ORNAN THE JEBUSITE THAT KING DAVID BOUGHT!
NO CONSIDERATION THAT JERUSALEM WAS ORIGINALLY AT THE SITE OF MODERN DAY "CITY OF DAVID"!
NO SPRING WATER FOR PURIFYING THINGS IN THE TEMPLE!
NO PURPOSE FOR WARREN'S SHAFT THAT Captain Charles Warren DISCOVER, OTHER THAT IRRIGATING THE POTATO FIELD ABOVE IT!
NO PURPOSE FOR THAT MUCH WATER WITH THE TWO LOWER EXITS BLOCKED THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN TOO MUCH WATER FOR THE FIELD.
NO TRUTH TO A SPRING GUSHING INTO THE TEMPLE, AS IT IS SIPHONED UP APPROXIMATELY 40 YARDS, AS THAT IS WHAT GIHON MEANS!
NO TRUTH TO WHY DAVID BUILT A SACRIFICE ALTAR, JUST NORTH OF HIS FUTURE PALACE, WHERE 2 Chronicles 3:1 SAID IT WAS.
That is SEVEN TRUTHS the Jews must say NO TO, in order to put it up in the Southeast Corner adjacent to the Dome of the ROCK.
NOT only that, they must deny that JOSEPHUS, an eye witness, knew what he was talking about. He even mentioned in several places, that the Fortress was on Higher Ground.
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I do not see it that way
dan spoke of gentile kingdoms who would rule over Isreal, The final kingdom being rome 2, which will be defeated by Christ himself
to me this is what paul was mentioning, not the church age or anything like this
dan spoke of gentile kingdoms who would rule over Isreal, The final kingdom being rome 2, which will be defeated by Christ himself
to me this is what paul was mentioning, not the church age or anything like this
Doesn't it bother you to have two covenants running at the same time? The final stage of the CHURCH-age, and the 70th Week of Daniel, which is the JACOB's Trouble you referred to. I think the CHURCH-age has to end, before JACOB's Trouble, can begin.
Now I MUST give you some NEWS, that You may not have never heard before:
That is how close most Jews want the TEMPLE to the Dome of the ROCK, if the put it in the Southeast Corner. That is just SO WRONG, AND HERE IS WHY. EVERY STATEMENT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE, BUT THE JEWS WOULD HAVE DENY IT AND SAY NO TO ALL OF THEM:
NO LEVEL BEDROCK UNDER IT FOR THE ORIGINAL THRESHING FLOOR OF ORNAN THE JEBUSITE THAT KING DAVID BOUGHT!
NO CONSIDERATION THAT JERUSALEM WAS ORIGINALLY AT THE SITE OF MODERN DAY "CITY OF DAVID"!
NO SPRING WATER FOR PURIFYING THINGS IN THE TEMPLE!
NO PURPOSE FOR WARREN'S SHAFT THAT Captain Charles Warren DISCOVER, OTHER THAT IRRIGATING THE POTATO FIELD ABOVE IT!
NO PURPOSE FOR THAT MUCH WATER WITH THE TWO LOWER EXITS BLOCKED THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN TOO MUCH WATER FOR THE FIELD.
NO TRUTH TO A SPRING GUSHING INTO THE TEMPLE, AS IT IS SIPHONED UP APPROXIMATELY 40 YARDS, AS THAT IS WHAT GIHON MEANS!
NO TRUTH TO WHY DAVID BUILT A SACRIFICE ALTAR, JUST NORTH OF HIS FUTURE PALACE, WHERE 2 Chronicles 3:1 SAID IT WAS.
That is SEVEN TRUTHS the Jews must say NO TO, in order to put it up in the Southeast Corner adjacent to the Dome of the ROCK.
NOT only that, they must deny that JOSEPHUS, an eye witness, knew what he was talking about. He even mentioned in several places, that the Fortress was on Higher Ground.
AND NO RECOLLECTION THAT MOUNT MORIAH WAS A ORIGINALLY A MOUNTAINOUS RIDGE THAT RAN FROM NORTH OF THE DOME OF A ROCK AND THE SOUTHERN TIP OF THE CITY OF DAVID. THUS THE CENTER PEAK ON THAT RIDGE WAS THE ORIGINAL MOUNT ZION, ON THE SOUTH END OF THE OPHEL, SO ON MOUNT MORIAH WHICH WAS NOT A SINGLE PEAK, AND AN ON THE ORIGINAL MOUNT ZION IS THE EXACT SAME PLACE. THE JEWS HAVE TO DENY THAT TRUTH, TO PLACE THE TEMPLE ON THE HIGHEST HILL.
SEE PARAGRAPH 10 OF THIS ARTICLE, DATED APRIL 8, 1996.
http://www.templemount.org/moriah2.html
I was wrong, as I was thinking of the term FULNESS OF THE GENTILES. I did not know they were two different things:
That chart was what Dr. Chuck Missler used.
Romans 11:25-27 (ASV)
25 For I would not, brethren, have you ignorant of this mystery, lest ye be wise in your own conceits, that a hardening in part hath befallen Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in;
26 and so all Israel shall be saved: even as it is written, There shall come out of Zion the Deliverer; He shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 And this is my covenant unto them, When I shall take away their sins.
Back to the NEWS.
And they reduce the FACT that MOUNT ZION was the in the OPHEL, to a MYTH, because supposedly "everyone" knows that Mount Zion is this mountain, called Mount Zion, was located Southwest of the so-called Temple Mount. Therefore the verses that indicate that Mount Zion IS Specific Location of the TEMPLE, has to be Wrong, so it must mean in the land of Mount Zion instead. WHO IS MORE THAN LIKELY WRONG, GOD or Man?
The next mountain Southwest of the so-called Temple Mount.
IGNORING the fact the Prince Simon in 132 A.D. ordered the ORIGINAL Mount Zion on the OPHEL (Temple Mount) would be a ROCK QUARRY, because the ROMANS had built the Temple of Jupiter there, defiling even the Bedrock.
WIKIPEDIA QUOTE:
Mount Zion (Hebrew: הַר צִיּוֹן, Har Tsiyyon; Arabic: جبل صهيون, Jabal Sahyoun) is a hill in Jerusalem, located just outside the walls of the Old City. The term Mount Zion has been used in the Hebrew Bible first for the City of David (2 Samuel 5:7, 1 Chronicles 11:5; 1 Kings 8:1, 2 Chronicles 5:2) and later for the Temple Mount, but its meaning has shifted and it is now used as the name of ancient Jerusalem's Western Hill.[1][2] In a wider sense, the term is also used for the entire Land of Israel.[3]
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The three different locations:
David's Tomb on Mount Zion
The name Mount Zion referred successively to three locations, as Jerusalemites preserved the time-honoured name, but shifted the location they venerated as the focal point of biblical Jerusalem to the site considered most appropriate in their own time.
Lower Eastern Hill (City of David):
At first, Mount Zion was the name given to the Jebusite fortified city on the lower part of ancient Jerusalem's Eastern Hill, also known as the City of David.[1]
According to the Book of Samuel, Mount Zion was the site of the Jebusite fortress called the "stronghold of Zion" that was conquered by King David, then renamed and partially rebuilt by him as the "City of David", where he erected his palace.[1]
Upper Eastern Hill (Temple Mount):
Once the First Temple was erected at the top of the Eastern Hill, the name "Mount Zion" migrated there too.[1]
After the conquest of the Jebusite city, its built-up area expanded northward towards the uppermost part of the same, Eastern Hill. This highest part became the site of Solomon's Temple.
The identification of the pre-Israelite (Jebusite) and Israelite towns on the Eastern Hill is based on the existence of only one perennial water source in the area, the Gihon Spring, and on archaeological excavations revealing sections of the Bronze Age and Iron Age city walls and water systems.[1][10]
The "Mount Zion" mentioned in the later parts of the Book of Isaiah (Isaiah 60:14), in the Book of Psalms, and the First Book of Maccabees (c. 2nd century BCE) seems to refer to the top of the hill, generally known as the Temple Mount.[1]
Western Hill (today's Mount Zion):
Natural topography of the old city of Jerusalem and its surroundings
The last shift of the name Mount Zion was to the Western Hill, which is more dominant {higher} than the Eastern Hill and seemed to first-century CE Jerusalemites the worthier location for the by-then lost palace of King David. The Western Hill is what today is called Mount Zion.
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HISTORY:
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Between 1948 and 1967, when the Old City was under Jordanian rule, Israelis were forbidden access to the Jewish holy places. Mount Zion was a designated no-man's land between Israel and Jordan.[16] Mount Zion was the closest accessible site to the ancient Jewish Temple. Until East Jerusalem was captured by Israel in the Six-Day War, Israelis would climb to the rooftop of David's Tomb to pray.[17] The winding road leading up to Mount Zion is known as Pope's Way (Derekh Ha'apifyor). It was paved in honor of the historic visit to Jerusalem of Pope Paul VI in 1964.[16]
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The LAST SHIFT of where Mount Zion ACTUALLY IS, was made during the agreement on ONE location of Mount ZION during the Jordanian rule in the paragraph. SO THEY CHOSE THE HIGHEST HILL, and it is WRONG. It actually was the LOWER EASTERN HILL, on the Southern end of the OPHEL. It appears to me the Decisions of the Sanhedrin, are totally VOID of the Holy Spirit Input.
1 Maccabees 7:33 (NRSV)
33 After these events Nicanor went up to Mount Zion. Some of the priests from the sanctuary and some of the elders of the people came out to greet him peaceably and to show him the burnt offering that was being offered for the king.
That verse was written between 134-104 B.C. AND it clearly puts the TEMPLE on Mount ZION, not near there.
In all fairness, I will show a video presentation of a Bible Teacher that thinks the TEMPLE would have been located further west, than the Northwest corner of the City of David. It was posted 26 Jan., 2019. I do not agree with the guy's findings, but at least he does not agree with the Location that the so-called Temple Mount, is the correct location, which it is NOT.
This Photo is looking Southeast from the Western Wall where the Jews Pray. That corner you see in the middle near the right side of this pictures, is the Southwest corner of them so-called Temple Complex. He is saying it is near the CURRENT DAY Mount of Zion, which it was named that by a VOTE of the Sanhedrin, after the First Crusade 1096 A.D. I wonder if this guy has changed his opinion after the things that I have been reporting SINCE he originally posted this video? The TEMPLE SHOULD BE LOCATED Just a few Yards NORTH of King David's Palace, on the Southwest part of the OPHEL.
The CORRECT location would approximately be just west of that LONE TREE, that you see just west of that BIG FARM HOUSE.
This Photo is looking Southeast from the Western Wall where the Jews Pray. That corner you see in the middle near the right side of this pictures, is the Southwest corner of them so-called Temple Complex. He is saying it is near the CURRENT DAY Mount of Zion, which it was named that by a VOTE of the Sanhedrin, after the First Crusade 1096 A.D. I wonder if this guy has changed his opinion after the things that I have been reporting SINCE he originally posted this video? The TEMPLE SHOULD BE LOCATED Just a few Yards NORTH of King David's Palace, on the Southwest part of the OPHEL.
The CORRECT location would approximately be just west of that LONE TREE, that you see just west of that BIG FARM HOUSE.
I have been wondering, because when Prince Simon Bar Kochba in 132 A.D. declared the Temple Mount was defiled by the Roman's putting a TEMPLE to JUPITER on that site, had to be turned into a ROCK QUARRY; how come many JEWS did not protest? Now like Paul Harvey used to say, "And now you know the REST of the STORY." . . . . . . . . Bar Kochba told the rest of the JEWS that he was going to rebuild the Temple, but the first step was to remove a specific layer of ROCK, to get down below where the ROMAN's had defiled the bedrock. because they had built the a Temple to Jupiter on that site. I tried to find the video that had some one quote a book, where they had In was quoting a book in that video, where Bar Kochba had made the decree that the Temple Mount would be turned into a Rock Quarry. But unfortunately that Video is no longer available. If I find another quoting that same book, I will post it here. Here is the INFO that Bar Kochba made the Decree that he would rebuild the TEMPLE.
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All told, Bar Kochba eventually mustered an army of almost 350,000. In the ancient world that was an enormous army, greater in number than the entire Roman army.
The Romans were so hard pressed that Hadrian brought his best general and all of his troops from England, Gaul, Germany and all of the provinces scattered throughout the Roman world. The reason was simple: Rome felt itself threatened as no other time. It was total war.
Many details of the war are unclear to us. We know that at one point Bar Kochba took back Jerusalem and proclaimed that he was going to rebuild the Temple, which was one of the steps the Messiah was supposed to do according to prophecy and tradition. However, due to Roman pressure and internal dissention he apparently never got to actually rebuilding it. By the third year of his reign there were already signs of disenchantment.
https://www.jewishhistory.org/bar-kochba/
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All told, Bar Kochba eventually mustered an army of almost 350,000. In the ancient world that was an enormous army, greater in number than the entire Roman army.
The Romans were so hard pressed that Hadrian brought his best general and all of his troops from England, Gaul, Germany and all of the provinces scattered throughout the Roman world. The reason was simple: Rome felt itself threatened as no other time. It was total war.
Many details of the war are unclear to us. We know that at one point Bar Kochba took back Jerusalem and proclaimed that he was going to rebuild the Temple, which was one of the steps the Messiah was supposed to do according to prophecy and tradition. However, due to Roman pressure and internal dissention he apparently never got to actually rebuilding it. By the third year of his reign there were already signs of disenchantment.
https://www.jewishhistory.org/bar-kochba/
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This is all very interesting, and I think there is an excellent case to be made for it. I truly do. The only problem I see with a "third temple" is the fact it wouldn't be Gods temple, it would be mans. The huge glaring problem I see with even the concept of a "third temple" is the fact that cannon is closed and He ordered no such temple built. EVERYTHING the temple was purposed for, EVERYTHING it shadowed and pointed to was fulfilled in Jesus Christ. Right?THIRD TEMPLE - Has to be built on the site of Solomon's TEMPLE
Matthew 24:2 (ESV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”
So how was that Prophecy about the TEMPLE from JESUS, FULFILLED to the LETTER? Contrary to popular belief, Solomon's Temple was not on what the JEWS today call the TEMPLE MOUNT; and there is a lot more to the Story than just the damage done by the ROMAN'S in 70 A.D.
In addition to the Roman destruction of the TEMPLE, the Macabean King Simon, ordered the real TEMPLE MOUNT in what is now called the City of David, but was then at the time of Christ, the original location of Jerusalem; TURNED INTO A ROCK QUARRY. He did that because of what the Romans did in 70 A.D., saying even the Rock base was therefore DEFILED on the original Temple Mount. Macabeans removed several meters of rock and used it to fill in the Valley to the South, making a fairly level road coming in from the South to Jerusalem. That distance from the Southern Wall of Fort Antonia to the TEMPLE is only a difference of about 400 ft. to the south of what is today the city limits of Jerusalem.
The Dome of the Rock is in the CENTER of Fort Antonia.
On the Left is the South Wall in the Southeast corner, that is the property line for Jerusalem, South of that Wall is now the City of David. The silverish domed Mosque would be the Southwest corner of Fort Antonia, in this lower Picture.
See that big tree in the Olive grove left of the silver colored steel dome, it may be the one that is the oldest Olive Trees in Israel. At least I think that is the tree they were talking about. It would be about the Northwest corner of the TEMPLE OUTER WALL. See that turn in the road going to the right towards that big tree. To the left of that intersection is good size building with what looks like a bell tower. THAT BUILDING MAY BE SITTING ON THE ORIGINAL LOCATION OF SOLOMON'S TEMPLE. Somebody has to move the road, however the Palestinians have no claim to land south of that silver dome.
The Archeologists, and one of them is an Israelite, have been seeking an audiance with the Israeli Government, and the Temple Institute, and getting NO RESPONSE. They think it is because they have a very big, bitter pill to swallow, in admitting they have been praying at the WRONG WALL all these years. The Archeologists are convinced they can PROVE the Whaling Wall is actually only part of Fort Antonia.
Here is the Video the Archeologists recently put on You Tube:
NEWEST VIDEO Proving the TEMPLE WAS IN THE
CITY OF DAVID, South Just Outside JERUSALEM.
Video published June 18th, 2017
[video=youtube;kJpuw5-33y0]
Another follow up point is the temple that the AoD takes place in, the alter that is desecrated is in Gods temple, it is Gods alter a pig was sacrificed on, not a counterfeit temple. So if the AoD takes place in "THE" temple of God, and this temple no longer exist, then the real problem is God's temple was judged and destroyed just like Jesus said already, God has given us His word completed and nowhere in it orders His people (Christian or Jew) to build a new temple, as a matter of fact tells us we are the temple now.
Now my two main points to conclude are that scripture has closed without God ordering us to build a 3rd temple, so anything built claiming to be "Gods temple" would have to be a total counterfeit, so could not be desecrated nor fulfill everything described in His word. The other angle is God could order the Jews to rebuild the temple, only this would first mean cannon is NOT closed, but more than that even, why on earth would a God like ours order the reestablishment of a system that points to something that took place already, and even more than that obviously this very system failed the first time around to convince many of them.
When you really start thinking this futurist idea out it is really a pretty flimsy teaching without much support in scripture without taking verses out of context.
There is one new man in Christ. (Jew and gentile)
That does not change the fact that the orthodox jew will be regrafted into the bride population.
Nor the fact that the temple is a marker of dispensation.
In order for the ac to rule and defile it ...it must be re established.
It will be re established .
It is fascinating watching it all come together.
Further,the throne of David will be re established.
That is why a new Jerusalem must be installed(the throne of david is eternal and reoccupied by Jesus).
That is what is going on.