How Should Christians Vote?

[Ronja]

There are already numerous solutions in place that are alternatives to abortion. Abortion is murder. It sounds like you're saying people need a better reason to not get abortion aside from it being evil and just wrong.

I just don’t think it’s a good solution to ban it. I don’t like abortion, but I think it is needed. Of course I think that a woman should not be able to get it after a certain point in the pregnancy and that you shouldn’t take it for granted and make you act without care. But to judge a woman who needs to do it or to try to stop it through laws etc is very ignorant in my opinion. Perhaps you Or anyone you know won’t ever be in the same situation. But that is just it. It’s easy to vote for laws that doesn’t effect you personally.

 

[Ronja]

Young girls get pregnant all the time and do get their babies. I have no solutions. All I am trying to do is educate my own kids and if they do get pregnant at a young age, I would help them and never consider abortion.

I live right next to Germany and walk into France and Germany without any problems. We travel back and forth on many occasions. Germany is a good example of how migration has failed and how asyleum rights were abused by fakefugees.

We can’t send our kids to swimming pools anymore because many refugees (all male of course)) have no respect for European women. They are here to stay and are not considering going back to rebuild their country.

It is not one case anymore, it’s 24/7 and after theh Marakashpact mainstream media is forbidden to report any abuse or assaults of refugees. What source do you need? Go out on 31 december in any great city at Europe (besides Hungary or Poland) and you see what migration does to a country.

Sweden is the worst. Blond girls have to paint their hair due to the daily assaults they have to endure. Look at Sweden before mass migration and look at it now. The term “stockholmsyndrome” comes from Sweden.

I might be wrong about Germany, but if Sweden have it worse, then Germany is probably doing pretty good.
There are some small issues in Sweden. But that happened because a country with like 9 million people suddenly received a lot more. And with such a short amount of time people didn’t know how to react.
But what you are describing, I have never even heard of! Dying their hair? What XD? Where did that take place?

 

[Fundamental]

I might be wrong about Germany, but if Sweden have it worse, then Germany is probably doing pretty good.
There are some small issues in Sweden. But that happened because a country with like 9 million people suddenly received a lot more. And with such a short amount of time people didn’t know how to react.
But what you are describing, I have never even heard of! Dying their hair? What XD? Where did that take place?

Rape, pedophilea and murder are not “smalll” things Ronja.
Never was, never will be.

I am living in Europe and we do communicate amongst eachother. Sweden even had to deny all men acces to specific concerts because only denying muslims would not be political correct. It is not in Sweden alone, it’s all over Europe where salafist muslims gather. We even had to combat “sharia patrols” in Europe because they were telling our women and children how to dress, walk, talk and act.

Turn of your mainstream media and start listening to victims our media is ignoring.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/668637/Blonde-woman-robbed-migrant-gang-police-DYE-HER-HAIR

 

[Runningman]

I just don’t think it’s a good solution to ban it. I don’t like abortion, but I think it is needed. Of course I think that a woman should not be able to get it after a certain point in the pregnancy and that you shouldn’t take it for granted and make you act without care. But to judge a woman who needs to do it or to try to stop it through laws etc is very ignorant in my opinion. Perhaps you Or anyone you know won’t ever be in the same situation. But that is just it. It’s easy to vote for laws that doesn’t effect you personally.

Choosing to get an abortion is essentially a decision to kill someone because they are either a burden or their existence is threatening that person's survival. Choosing abortion is choosing to murder them because they're in the way.

Everyday everyone has to deal with people who are burdens and threatening their survival. Whether it be simply driving down the road or walking through the wrong part of town. Do you think it's necessary to kill off any driver who nearly collides head on with you and threatened your health? Do you think it's necessary to kill off someone who's existence changes your life in a way you don't like?

 

[Ronja]

Choosing to get an abortion is essentially a decision to kill someone because they are either a burden or their existence is threatening that person's survival. Choosing abortion is choosing to murder them because they're in the way.

Everyday everyone has to deal with people who are burdens and threatening their survival. Whether it be simply driving down the road or walking through the wrong part of town. Do you think it's necessary to kill off any driver who nearly collides head on with you and threatened your health? Do you think it's necessary to kill off someone who's existence changes your life in a way you don't like?

Again, do you have a good solution to what to do if a young girl gets pregnant and she is not ready/has the life and money to give birth and give that child a good life? In America giving birth is suuper expensive and you get no maternity leave by default. I don’t know if you are a man or a woman, but to put that burden on a young girl I feel is very unfair.
Sure, let her give birth free, have time off after and adopt her child. That way, saying no is not leaving her in the dirt, but giving her a valid option.

 

[Runningman]

Again, do you have a good solution to what to do if a young girl gets pregnant and she is not ready/has the life and money to give birth and give that child a good life? In America giving birth is suuper expensive and you get no maternity leave by default. I don’t know if you are a man or a woman, but to put that burden on a young girl I feel is very unfair.
Sure, let her give birth free, have time off after and adopt her child. That way, saying no is not leaving her in the dirt, but giving her a valid option.

Life is complicated and messy. Killing someone shouldn't be considered a valid option. The alternative is deal with it, change their life plans, because now they're going to be a mother before they're financially or emotionally ready for it.

Life is not guaranteed to be easy and uncomplicated. Christians should not be concerned with their own comfort but rather how they can glorify God. Now, I understand we are discussing a secular world where abortion is normal, but they're wrong.

 

[bojack]

Again, do you have a good solution to what to do if a young girl gets pregnant and she is not ready/has the life and money to give birth and give that child a good life? In America giving birth is suuper expensive and you get no maternity leave by default. I don’t know if you are a man or a woman, but to put that burden on a young girl I feel is very unfair.
Sure, let her give birth free, have time off after and adopt her child. That way, saying no is not leaving her in the dirt, but giving her a valid option.

For starters .. Defund abortion clinics, outlaw and prosecute abortion doctors and staff for murder, make abortion videos and show in schools the abortion process of tearing the unborn babies into pieces in detail to all students regularly and make fathers responsible working on whatever jobs to pay even like a chain gang if necessary .... Rely on the maternal instincts given by God that most mothers never regret having her child .. Teach marriage before sex and at least birth control ....

 

[soggykitten]

That's my sense as well. Both Biden and Harris are very much in favor of abortion right up to the point that the baby is about to be born. I will never vote for anyone that is pro-death regardless of their political affiliation.

Hence the reason many people refer to those type publicly open Democrats as slaves of Moloch. Or, Moloch worshipers.
Harris' stance on abortion is quite frankly obscene. https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/kamala-harriss-abortion-absolutism/

 

[soggykitten]

Young girls get pregnant all the time and do get their babies. I have no solutions. All I am trying to do is educate my own kids and if they do get pregnant at a young age, I would help them and never consider abortion.

I live right next to Germany and walk into France and Germany without any problems. We travel back and forth on many occasions. Germany is a good example of how migration has failed and how asyleum rights were abused by fakefugees.

We can’t send our kids to swimming pools anymore because many refugees (all male of course)) have no respect for European women. They are here to stay and are not considering going back to rebuild their country.

It is not one case anymore, it’s 24/7 and after theh Marakashpact mainstream media is forbidden to report any abuse or assaults of refugees. What source do you need? Go out on 31 december in any great city at Europe (besides Hungary or Poland) and you see what migration does to a country.

Sweden is the worst. Blond girls have to paint their hair due to the daily assaults they have to endure. Look at Sweden before mass migration and look at it now. The term “stockholmsyndrome” comes from Sweden.

I just found out that the show is still on, "Teen mom". A few years ago the news reported an upswing in teenage girls working to get pregnant. Why? Unbelievably, but I guess not so much in today's world, teen girls were looking to get pregnant so they could apply to be on that show.
Yeah.

 

[soggykitten]

Ah, I see. So when the scripture says: Chris” It means other strangers and brothers, not the ones you don’t feel comfortable with?
Jesus said to go out and make all people his disciples. That is not an easy thing to do if you steal their kids and sets them in prison.
How about doing like they have in other countries, give the immigrants and their kids proper housing till they have been processed?
The thing with America is that it brings out a lot of influence. So even if I people living in other countries cannot vote, this election is very important. As I have been saying, since Trump took the office the relationship with other countries have become way worse and this is not a good sign. Have whatever opinion about this you want but your election effects us all.

Are you saying illegals trespassing into this nation of America should be exempt from our immigration laws?And we should abide by that and support that because we're Christian?Christians are called to love people not argue that a segment of law breakers should be exempt from punishment for wrongful actions. Illegals who travel with their children are putting those children in danger when they don't need to. And there would be no danger if those parents chose to enter America legally.

Laws matter. Why should immigration laws be exempt?

Mushroom? I don’t have a profile pic XD. You mean someone else?

What? No shroom pic? What's wrong with you? Yep, meant to add Skovand's name prior to that comment. A one stop opinion post if you will.

 

[soggykitten]

Just to add clarity here, Nehemiah is Canadian, not American. Check his profile, he lives in Canada. I've asked him twice if he's an American ex-pat and he's not answered. I wouldn't be upset about his observations of American politics when they don't actually pertain to him personally as an American.

Bad spelling?
@GST where's that at in my post you judged so?

 

[tourist]

Hence the reason many people refer to those type publicly open Democrats as slaves of Moloch. Or, Moloch worshipers.
Harris' stance on abortion is quite frankly obscene. https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/kamala-harriss-abortion-absolutism/

Her stance is most obscene. Apparently, she is fine with a doctor sticking a sharp instrument in the brain of a baby that is about to be born. Biden used to be against late term abortion but of course, he is now onboard with this in order to gain a block of votes.

The law in the state of New York that Governor Cuomo celebrates is not even a late term abortion but rather premeditated cold-blooded murder. The abortion issue could very well be the decisive factor in the general election.

There is an estimate that 25% of Democrats are pro-life. These are the votes that Trump should go after and find a way to bring them under the Republican tent, at least for the purpose of this critical election that will decide the course this country takes for at least a generation.

 

[soggykitten]

Are you saying illegals trespassing into this nation of America should be exempt from our immigration laws?And we should abide by that and support that because we're Christian?Christians are called to love people not argue that a segment of law breakers should be exempt from punishment for wrongful actions. Illegals who travel with their children are putting those children in danger when they don't need to. And there would be no danger if those parents chose to enter America legally.

Laws matter. Why should immigration laws be exempt?



What? No shroom pic? What's wrong with you? Yep, meant to add Skovand's name prior to that comment. A one stop opinion post if you will.

OPINION How to defend being pro-life while being against illegal immigration
As a Christian, I am called to love people – not to eliminate punishment for wrongful actions.
Mon Jun 25, 2018

 

[soggykitten]

Her stance is most obscene. Apparently, she is fine with a doctor sticking a sharp instrument in the brain of a baby that is about to be born. Biden used to be against late term abortion but of course, he is now onboard with this in order to gain a block of votes.

The law in the state of New York that Governor Cuomo celebrates is not even a late term abortion but rather premeditated cold-blooded murder. The abortion issue could very well be the decisive factor in the general election.

There is an estimate that 25% of Democrats are pro-life. These are the votes that Trump should go after and find a way to bring them under the Republican tent, at least for the purpose of this critical election that will decide the course this country takes for at least a generation.

Biden is no more moral. June 30 = Joe Biden Endorses Abortion ‘Under Any Circumstance’ In Statement After SCOTUS Rulinghttps://www.dailywire.com/news/joe-...circumstance-in-statement-after-scotus-ruling

Remember when HRC was running in 2016? It came out that she was for abortion even after the baby was delivered. That's infanticide! But apparently for her, a trained attorney in the laws of this nation, it's a choice!

 

[Ronja]

For starters .. Defund abortion clinics, outlaw and prosecute abortion doctors and staff for murder, make abortion videos and show in schools the abortion process of tearing the unborn babies into pieces in detail to all students regularly and make fathers responsible working on whatever jobs to pay even like a chain gang if necessary .... Rely on the maternal instincts given by God that most mothers never regret having her child .. Teach marriage before sex and at least birth control ....

I am soo confused right now.
So the solution on the issue I brought up is to have the fathers stay in a relationship that might not be working, and provide for the kids, even if that would mean quitting school that would better their lives? And if they are in jail they should be responsible to pay even though they make almost nothing during their prison labor?
And even if that is just a very strange, made up solution, you carry on like it would totally work and tell me how you want to make abortion illegal. Punish those who do their jobs and helping women, show graphic videos to kids and make everybody marry before having sex, which would absolutely push people to marry before they are ready and end up in more families splitting up.

I am not saying that you don’t have the right to feel that abortion is wrong. What I am saying is that it is a very complicated issue and if there was a perfect solution it would be amazing, but there isn’t. No woman wants to go though an abortion, but many doesn’t see another option.

Btw most abortions are made with just a pair of pills and they happen really early. Just so you know.

 

[tourist]

Biden is no more moral. June 30 = Joe Biden Endorses Abortion ‘Under Any Circumstance’ In Statement After SCOTUS Rulinghttps://www.dailywire.com/news/joe-...circumstance-in-statement-after-scotus-ruling

Remember when HRC was running in 2016? It came out that she was for abortion even after the baby was delivered. That's infanticide! But apparently for her, a trained attorney in the laws of this nation, it's a choice!

There are two choices: Pro-Life or Pro-Death. Trump needs to rip the bark of Biden and expose him for who he truly is and represents. No more Mr. Nice Guy for Trump in the forthcoming political ads and public addresses. It's time for Trump / Pence to get real and get a handle on defeating Biden / Harris. There is still time to do so but not Trump has a lot of ground to make up.

 

[soggykitten]

There are two choices: Pro-Life or Pro-Death. Trump needs to rip the bark of Biden and expose him for who he truly is and represents. No more Mr. Nice Guy for Trump in the forthcoming political ads and public addresses. It's time for Trump / Pence to get real and get a handle on defeating Biden / Harris. There is still time to do so but not Trump has a lot of ground to make up.

I just hope Trump nor his camp are underestimating Biden/Harris due to Biden's obvious mental infirmity. It would be a mistake to think they can't go hard in addressing Biden's view on public issues just because they may think he doesn't stand a chance of winning.
Harris supposedly isn't qualified even to be VP much less President. Trump isn't bringing that up as yet. God forbid Biden/Harris win in November, I think that would be a wee bit too late.

Thursday, 13 August 2020 Kamala Harris Is Not Qualified to Be (Vice) President
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usne...-harris-is-not-qualified-to-be-vice-president

 

[CS1]

Can a Christian vote for the Democrat Party who support abortions, homosexual marriages, and socialism? Many televangelists Pastors ask the question, "How can you call yourself a Christian and vote Democrat"?

Depending on the variety of issues at hand, can a Christian vote for different parties or candidates?

sure a Christian can vote DNC, in fact, many do. There are very many liberal Christians. IF they are in a relationship with Jesus and hold to the word of God, the Lord knows . there has not been one election where they have not voted to elect both democrats and republicans

 

[tourist]

I just hope Trump nor his camp are underestimating Biden/Harris due to Biden's obvious mental infirmity. It would be a mistake to think they can't go hard in addressing Biden's view on public issues just because they may think he doesn't stand a chance of winning.
Harris supposedly isn't qualified even to be VP much less President. Trump isn't bringing that up as yet. God forbid Biden/Harris win in November, I think that would be a wee bit too late.

Thursday, 13 August 2020 Kamala Harris Is Not Qualified to Be (Vice) President
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usne...-harris-is-not-qualified-to-be-vice-president

Kamala Harris is no way qualified to be (Vice) President. Neither is Biden qualified to be President. If he wins, it will be Harris that is actually running the country following the guidance of Bernie and AOC. We're talking serious Loony Tunes here. Disaster.

 

[soggykitten]

sure a Christian can vote DNC, in fact, many do. There are very many liberal Christians. IF they are in a relationship with Jesus and hold to the word of God, the Lord knows . there has not been one election where they have not voted to elect both democrats and republicans

I don't know how holding to the word of God while voting for the ungodly works. Do you?