The Talmud

[TroyBanished]

God made covenants throughout history:

1.) With Noah, to not destroy mankind again in a flood
2.) With Abraham, to make him a great nation
3.) Abraham's covenant was extended to Isaac and then Jacob
4.) The nation of Israel had a covenant to be God's chosen people and he would be their God and allow them to live in the promised land as long as they
- relied on him for military support
- did not participate in usury
- took care of the orphan, widow, poor, refugee
- did not worship other gods
5.) But the Israelites disobeyed God over and over and kept breaking God's commands and so he sent prophets to warn them that they would be punished and sent into exile. God even compared them to prostitutes and that he kept taking them back. Eventually God allowed Israel and Judah to be exiled, but He mad a covenant that he would not destroy them completely one day he would send a messiah.
6.) Then through Jesus, God made a new covenant to all nations and all people. He did not abolish the old covenants, but he fulfilled them all and made them more complete than ever. God showed that his intention had always been to include the whole world.

But too many people live through legalism. They live by the law and say false things like:
- women can't teach
- Jews are God's chosen people
- God only talks to Christians
- Israel is God's fulfillment of Prophecy
- Sinners are going to hell
- Wars against Islam are ok
- Women shouldn't wear braids
- We should not eat pork

These are false teachings, they are legalism.

The truth is we are all sinners and deserve hell, but only through accepting the free gift of Grace through accepting Jesus Christ as our savior can we have eternal life.

We must hate sin, but give grace to non-christians, sinners and christians who fail for we too are sinners. We don't deserve eternal life any more than anyone else. But we have chosen to submit ourselves to Christ and become his ambassadors on earth.

This salvation is a gift of grace from God and is open to all, Jews and non-Jew and we are all equal before God.

You can tell the difference between Christians who live under legalism and who follow grace, you can tell them by their fruits.

Legalism = spirtual death
Grace = spiritual life

But we all must guard our hearts, because fear and hatred can drag us back towards legalism

 

[TroyBanished]

And the Jews are wrong to assume the land was theirs. The land was entrusted to them while they were under God's favor. But the land was never theirs. They were just stewards and they were exiled. The fact that they took it back by force after being exiled for 2700 years does not mean that they are back as God's chosen people.

 

[TroyBanished]

Mark 12:1-12

The Parable of the Tenants
12 Jesus then began to speak to them in parables: “A man planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it, dug a pit for the winepress and built a watchtower. Then he rented the vineyard to some farmers and moved to another place. 2 At harvest time he sent a servant to the tenants to collect from them some of the fruit of the vineyard. 3 But they seized him, beat him and sent him away empty-handed. 4 Then he sent another servant to them; they struck this man on the head and treated him shamefully. 5 He sent still another, and that one they killed. He sent many others; some of them they beat, others they killed.

6 “He had one left to send, a son, whom he loved. He sent him last of all, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’

7 “But the tenants said to one another, ‘This is the heir. Come, let’s kill him, and the inheritance will be ours.’ 8 So they took him and killed him, and threw him out of the vineyard.

9 “What then will the owner of the vineyard do? He will come and kill those tenants and give the vineyard to others. 10 Haven’t you read this passage of Scripture:

“‘The stone the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone;
11 the Lord has done this,
and it is marvelous in our eyes’[a]?”
12 Then the chief priests, the teachers of the law and the elders looked for a way to arrest him because they knew he had spoken the parable against them. But they were afraid of the crowd; so they left him and went away.

 

[TroyBanished]

God is the man who planted the Vineyard, the Vineyard is Palestine, Israel is the bad tenants, the prophets are those who were mistreated, Jesus is the son they killed, and God exiled the Israelites and gave the land to others.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Are the Jews really Gods chosen people? Whats with the teachings of the Talmud that most Jews live by? I would really like some feedback. Thank you

The Talmud corresponds to the teachings of the Pharisees, and is largely the traditions of men (the rabbis). It rejects Jesus of Nazareth as the King/Messiah of Israel.

As to the Jews and Israel, God is not through with them (as some believe). There are many Jews who are presently being converted, but they prefer to isolate themselves from Gentile churches. After the Second Coming of Christ there will be a redemption and restoration of Israel.

 

[ev4989]

The Talmud corresponds to the teachings of the Pharisees, and is largely the traditions of men (the rabbis). It rejects Jesus of Nazareth as the King/Messiah of Israel.

As to the Jews and Israel, God is not through with them (as some believe). There are many Jews who are presently being converted, but they prefer to isolate themselves from Gentile churches. After the Second Coming of Christ there will be a redemption and restoration of Israel.

So, you believe that the second time around the Jews are going to believe that Jesus is the
King of the Jews?

 

[Nehemiah6]

So, you believe that the second time around the Jews are going to believe that Jesus is the
King of the Jews?

Not all. Only one-third of all the Jews in the world according to Scripture. But they will be from every tribe.

 

[ev4989]

Not all. Only one-third of all the Jews in the world according to Scripture. But they will be from every tribe.

There are no longer any tribes. In America they are either ambulance chasing lawyers or doctors.or own Hollywood. lol... They don't even believe in God...

 

[Nehemiah6]

There are no longer any tribes. In America they are either ambulance chasing lawyers or doctors.or own Hollywood. lol... They don't even believe in God...

From the human perspective there are no longer any tribes. But as we see in Revelation and Ezekiel, God will recognize the twelve tribes once again before and after the Second Coming of Christ. And we are not speaking about UNBELIEVING Jews (the ones you have mentioned).

 

[TroyBanished]

Only two tribes of Israel exist today: Levi and Judah. The rest of the tribes intermarried and their distinct tribes disappeared. When Israel was captured by Assyria, those 10 tribes were assimilated. When Judah was captured by Babylon, those two tribes were allowed to keep their culture.

 

[Deus_Vult]

Revelation 3:9

"9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

This explains why the Talmud is the most satanic book i have ever read, it also explains why the ones pushing all kind of aberrations and degeneracy in the modern world are "jews".... They hate us the christian people, they even hate the other jews who are not part of their nasty rituals... That's the synagogue of satan, the antichrisst himself will be a jew too and he will sit in the third temple.

Definetely "jews" are not the people of God anymore, it's us the Christians, it doesn't matter if it's an african, jew, gentile only and exclusively people who praise and accept Jesus Christ as their lord are the people of God.

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

So, you believe that the second time around the Jews are going to believe that Jesus is the
King of the Jews?

Go and look at the testimonies in "Jews for Jesus" and be blessed.

 

[oldethennew]

Only two tribes of Israel exist today: Levi and Judah. The rest of the tribes intermarried and their distinct tribes disappeared. When Israel was captured by Assyria, those 10 tribes were assimilated. When Judah was captured by Babylon, those two tribes were allowed to keep their culture.

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oh boy,
REV. 7:4.
And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand
(of all the tribes of the children of Israel.)

IF what you say were 'true', you nullify this scripture, among many others...

 

[tanakh]

The Talmad consists of the discussions and debates about the content of the Torah. It also gives instructions on how to
conduct day to day duties and and special events such as Marriage Ceremonies which are not included in the Torah itself.
parts of the Talmud started as purely oral instructions passed down from generation to generation some originated from
before and during the time of Jesus. After the destruction of Jerusalem the diaspora that followed it the oral teachings
together with the written teaching preserved by the Babylonian Jewish diaspora were compiled together in a set of about
twenty volumes. Huge tracts of the Talmud were memorised by Jewish students so that they could flee from persecution
and still preserve their heritage

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

The Talmad consists of the discussions and debates about the content of the Torah. It also gives instructions on how to
conduct day to day duties and and special events such as Marriage Ceremonies which are not included in the Torah itself.
parts of the Talmud started as purely oral instructions passed down from generation to generation some originated from
before and during the time of Jesus. After the destruction of Jerusalem the diaspora that followed it the oral teachings
together with the written teaching preserved by the Babylonian Jewish diaspora were compiled together in a set of about
twenty volumes. Huge tracts of the Talmud were memorised by Jewish students so that they could flee from persecution
and still preserve their heritage

The Talmud is the oral Torah and the Torah is the written Torah . The issue is that the Jews place more authority over the oral Torah (their rabbis) because they have a "direct line" to YHVH... and apparently God is not speaking to us anymore.

 

[kaylagrl]

Yes the Jews infiltrated the Catholic church from the beginning... They boast about it and laugh at us "Goyim"(human cattle). I need answers as to why these people are they way they are.

You have been sadly misinformed. The Catholic church has been anti-Semitic for years and years. The church fathers were anti-Semitic. Martin Luther wrote hell fire sermons on it, even after he left the Catholic church. The Jews have been persecuted by the Catholic church. So much so that they came out after the Holocaust to apologize for their part in it. Honestly, ask the Lord to help you with your hatred and anti-Semitism. God cannot bless us when we hold such hate and bitterness in our hearts.

 

[Magenta]

Go and look at the testimonies in "Jews for Jesus" and be blessed.

There is also this (<- link)

 

[Deus_Vult]

You have been sadly misinformed. The Catholic church has been anti-Semitic for years and years. The church fathers were anti-Semitic. Martin Luther wrote hell fire sermons on it, even after he left the Catholic church. The Jews have been persecuted by the Catholic church. So much so that they came out after the Holocaust to apologize for their part in it. Honestly, ask the Lord to help you with your hatred and anti-Semitism. God cannot bless us when we hold such hate and bitterness in our hearts.

You have been indoctrinated by the descendants of Judas Iscariot, Caiaphas and the others who loved prasing Moloch and Baphomet.

In the christian era they were not persecuted because they were the people of God... They were persecuted because their god was Satan, that's why they love mocking about Jesus Christ in their Hollywood movies and doing all kind of degenerated movies against the christian faith (Yes, the descendants of Judas control Hollywood, if you don't believe me ask Mel Gibson).

The star of Israel is demonic, it's not "the star of David".

ACTS 7:43 (NKJV):
You also took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and THE STAR of your god Remphan, images which you made to worship.

Now you talk about hate and bitterness but i will show you what is hate and bitternes according to some beautiful verses in the Babilonic Talmud:

"Non-jewish women are donkeys" (Berakoth 58a)
"What is a prostitute? Every non-Jewish woman" (Eben ha Ezer, 6, 8)
"Killing a goyim is the same as killing a wild animal." (Sanhedrin 59 a)

Revelation 2:9
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou aret rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Better keep researching why the freemasons have been persecuted by the catholic church.

 

[Deus_Vult]

We have to learn to differentiate between the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, the king David and the lord Jesus Christ... Great men of honor... And separate them from the pharisees descendants of Korah, Dathan, Ahab and Jezebel, Caiaphas, Judas etc, which are causing irreparable damage to the whole globe and that's not "anti-semitism" it's just the the truth.

 

[oldethennew]

Kaylagrl has obviously read the true HISTORY of the rcc...,
and we have read and discerned the SAME thing from
'multiple sources'...