Justified by work vs faith

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Jackson123

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Are you tempted to Murder ? you seem to have a worrying obsession with murder .
No I am not

I only repeat what Galatians 5 say

Why I tempted to murder If I believe Galatians 5 say murder not go to heaven.

I think you tempted to murder that is why you believe murder go to heaven If you Christian.
 

throughfaith

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His blood only forgive whosoever believe.
Whosoever have faith and faith without work is dead
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
 

throughfaith

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No I am not

I only repeat what Galatians 5 say

Why I tempted to murder If I believe Galatians 5 say murder not go to heaven.

I think you tempted to murder that is why you believe murder go to heaven If you Christian.
2cor 5 .19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them ; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
your not responding to this verse . I may have to put you on the ignore list as your not responding .
 

Jackson123

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Which denomination or church type do you belong to ?
You may think I am Lie, I attend first baptist church, they teach like what you believe, but I do my own bible reading and don't believe unbiblical teaching anymore

I fight with them now about this teaching, I rather believe in biblical teaching than man Made teaching
 

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To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
What verse you qouting from
 

throughfaith

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What verse you qouting from
2cor 5 .19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them ; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
 

Jackson123

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2cor 5 .19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them ; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
your not responding to this verse . I may have to put you on the ignore list as your not responding .
I did responing but It is your right to put me oN ignore list

The reconciliation is only for whosoever believe.
 

throughfaith

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What verse you qouting from
2cor 5 .19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them ; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
 

throughfaith

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I did responing but It is your right to put me oN ignore list

The reconciliation is only for whosoever believe.
Thats not what it says is it ?
2cor 5 .19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them ; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. Notice this is the whole world . Everyone. Unbelivers . All .
 

Jackson123

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Thats not what it says is it ?
2cor 5 .19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them ; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
My Dear brother, we better read some verse before verse 19 because It is relate

Let pick verse 9 and 10

9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.

10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

9. We labor or do what ever we can to be accept by God

What must we do in order to be accepted by God, murder?

Verse 10

Every body recieve the ting he done good/ love or bad/ murder.



Murder base oN Galatians 5 go to hell.

The problem is you only read one verse and not read in context.

Let say there is a law in america say

Murder must punish by murder

And you only read must punish by murder

Than you say, don't go to america you Will be punish by murder

You going to have wrong conclution my Dear brother.

You better read in context
 

throughfaith

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My Dear brother, we better read some verse before verse 19 because It is relate

Let pick verse 9 and 10

9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.

10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

9. We labor or do what ever we can to be accept by God

What must we do in order to be accepted by God, murder?

Verse 10

Every body recieve the ting he done good/ love or bad/ murder.



Murder base oN Galatians 5 go to hell.

The problem is you only read one verse and not read in context.

Let say there is a law in america say

Murder must punish by murder

And you only read must punish by murder

Than you say, don't go to america you Will be punish by murder

You going to have wrong conclution my Dear brother.

You better read in context
You missed 2 cor 5 .5
Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
well well again !!! we see this promise.
 

Jackson123

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So its Jesus death , burial and resurrection that saves .
So its Jesus death , burial and resurrection that saves .
That save whosoever believe, not muslim or catholic

Only whosoever believe in His teaching Anda this is his greatest teaching

Matt 22

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

We not in Moses law anymore, No need animal sacrifice but still need love

All the law and prophet are hung oN those 2 law of love

That is why Gal 5 murder not go to heaven because murder violate those love law

You not murder your love one

Love not murder

Paul tell us in 1 cor 13 what is charity or love in action look like

4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
 

throughfaith

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That save whosoever believe, not muslim or catholic

Only whosoever believe in His teaching Anda this is his greatest teaching

Matt 22

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

We not in Moses law anymore, No need animal sacrifice but still need love

All the law and prophet are hung oN those 2 law of love

That is why Gal 5 murder not go to heaven because murder violate those love law

You not murder your love one

Love not murder

Paul tell us in 1 cor 13 what is charity or love in action look like

4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
Love cannot save . Without the Gospel. You cannot love your way into Heaven my friend. If the requirement to recieve Jesus was to love God ( without believing the Gospel ) Then Jesus did not need to come and die . Abraham loved God but if Jesus did not die he would be in hell .
 

Jackson123

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You missed 2 cor 5 .5
Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
well well again !!! we see this promise.
God prepare for us Jesus that die for our sin but only for whosoever believe

Same procedure God prepare Holy Spirit not for every body bit only for whosoever invite and agree with his teaching. You have to read the whole story, not only 1 or 2 verses
 

throughfaith

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That save whosoever believe, not muslim or catholic

Only whosoever believe in His teaching Anda this is his greatest teaching

Matt 22

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

We not in Moses law anymore, No need animal sacrifice but still need love

All the law and prophet are hung oN those 2 law of love

That is why Gal 5 murder not go to heaven because murder violate those love law

You not murder your love one

Love not murder

Paul tell us in 1 cor 13 what is charity or love in action look like

4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
The greatest teaching in the bible is 1 cor 15.1-4
 

Jackson123

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Love cannot save . Without the Gospel. You cannot love your way into Heaven my friend. If the requirement to recieve Jesus was to love God ( without believing the Gospel ) Then Jesus did not need to come and die . Abraham loved God but if Jesus did not die he would be in hell .
You never able to produce real love without Jesus

Low quality of love may but not love to the point willing to die for other.

Branch can not bear fruit of itself

But If Jesus in your heart, you Will bear fruit, not that you have ability to produce high quality of love, but Jesus in you produce It and manifest through you

If Jesus not in you, you not save

Yes you need Jesus for salvation

Jesus Will keep you doing love not murder

If we doing murder than It mean we trust in ourselve, Jesus teach love not murder

Murder mean you not let Jesus Being thi King in your heart

That is why Gal 5 say murder not go to heaven
 

throughfaith

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God prepare for us Jesus that die for our sin but only for whosoever believe

Same procedure God prepare Holy Spirit not for every body bit only for whosoever invite and agree with his teaching. You have to read the whole story, not only 1 or 2 verses
I nearly choked on my coffee when you said ' not only 1 or 2 verses "