Abortion - Bible and Feminism

[Nehemiah6]

I don't want to log out, I want me or someone else to delete my account! I no longer waste my time with ignorant idiots who have no idea of the Bible or other matters of faith.

This is rich coming from a Bible ignoramus.

 

[Duskey]

I don't want to log out, I want me or someone else to delete my account! I no longer waste my time with ignorant idiots who have no idea of the Bible or other matters of faith.

Sentiments shared by someone who doesn’t understand ~ thou shalt not kill. Ba bye

 

[Duskey]

all aborted baby fetuses are sacrificed to satan

Perhaps sacrificed to satan but received by God.

 

[Duskey]

Nowhere in the Bible does it say that abortion is forbidden by God.

The 5th Commandment: Thou shalt not kill.

 

[Duskey]

Anyone who rates "God's Word" higher than judicial decisions, medical findings and common sense is not only a fool, but in my opinion also a crackpot!

I admit it’s difficult for me to pray for toxic foolish swine like Gerlinde24, so I must ask the Holy Spirit to intercede. And with that I wash my hands of her and her filth.

 

[John146]

Because the blame of abortion is laid entirely on the woman, who in many cases are victims. Most women select abortion as a last resort. You can be pro-life but lay the blame of abortion more fairly. Men support abortion and are also responsible for most of these abortions.

Who ultimately makes the choice to murder the child? Whoever it is, they are to blame. In most abortions are the men the one’s making the call?

 

[TheIndianGirl]

I admit it’s difficult for me to pray for toxic foolish swine like Gerlinde24, so I must ask the Holy Spirit to intercede. And with that I wash my hands of her and her filth.

I think we need to show more compassion for Gerlinde24 ; she has lived through unimaginable horror including prison which most of us cannot grasp.

To her, and many people in her situation, a child would be a heavy shackle (I'm not talking about a mere inconvenience) who would bring her even further into a bottomless pit instead of a blessing.

 

[TheIndianGirl]

Who ultimately makes the choice to murder the child? Whoever it is, they are to blame. In most abortions are the men the one’s making the call?

Based on the below data, partner related reasons account for 31% of abortions which is a large figure. I actually think the figures are much higher; most women would keep the baby if they have a supportive partner.

According to CNN:
Common Abortion Reasons
According to research collected from 2008 through 2010, the most frequently cited answers women provide as reasons for abortion (and the percentage of women who provided them) are the following. Note that women were able to give multiple reasons in this survey:

• Not financially prepared: 40 percent
• Bad timing, not ready, or unplanned: 36 percent
• Partner-related reasons (including the relationship is bad or new, she doesn't want to be a single mother, her partner is not supportive, does not want the baby, is abusive, or is the wrong guy): 31 percent
• Need to focus on her other children: 29 percent
• Not emotionally or mentally prepared: 19 percent
• Interferes with educational or vocational plans: 20 percent
• Health-related reasons (includes concern for her own health, the health of the fetus, use of prescription or non-prescription drugs, alcohol, or tobacco): 12 percent
• Want a better life for a baby than she could provide: 12 percent
• Not independent or mature enough for a baby: 7 percent
• Influences from family or friends: 5 percent
• Doesn't want a baby or to place the baby for adoption: 4 percent
• Partner-related issues: 31 percent

 

[EleventhHour]

Because the blame of abortion is laid entirely on the woman, who in many cases are victims. Most women select abortion as a last resort. You can be pro-life but lay the blame of abortion more fairly. Men support abortion and are also responsible for most of these abortions.

Studies do not show abortion to be a last resort or victims.
Even though this is older study I doubt there has been much shift as to the reasons

The highest percentage...
Source

unready for responsibility 21%

concerned about how having baby would change her life 16%

 

[Duskey]

I think we need to show more compassion for Gerlinde24 ; she has lived through unimaginable horror including prison which most of us cannot grasp.

No she hasn’t. She’s an anti-Christian feminist peddling her demonic dogma in an attempt to change pro-life minds and resolve.

 

[John146]

Based on the below data, partner related reasons account for 31% of abortions which is a large figure. I actually think the figures are much higher; most women would keep the baby if they have a supportive partner.

According to CNN:
Common Abortion Reasons
According to research collected from 2008 through 2010, the most frequently cited answers women provide as reasons for abortion (and the percentage of women who provided them) are the following. Note that women were able to give multiple reasons in this survey:

• Not financially prepared: 40 percent
• Bad timing, not ready, or unplanned: 36 percent
• Partner-related reasons (including the relationship is bad or new, she doesn't want to be a single mother, her partner is not supportive, does not want the baby, is abusive, or is the wrong guy): 31 percent
• Need to focus on her other children: 29 percent
• Not emotionally or mentally prepared: 19 percent
• Interferes with educational or vocational plans: 20 percent
• Health-related reasons (includes concern for her own health, the health of the fetus, use of prescription or non-prescription drugs, alcohol, or tobacco): 12 percent
• Want a better life for a baby than she could provide: 12 percent
• Not independent or mature enough for a baby: 7 percent
• Influences from family or friends: 5 percent
• Doesn't want a baby or to place the baby for adoption: 4 percent
• Partner-related issues: 31 percent

None justify murder.

 

[Camess]

Based on the below data, partner related reasons account for 31% of abortions which is a large figure. I actually think the figures are much higher; most women would keep the baby if they have a supportive partner.

According to CNN:
Common Abortion Reasons
According to research collected from 2008 through 2010, the most frequently cited answers women provide as reasons for abortion (and the percentage of women who provided them) are the following. Note that women were able to give multiple reasons in this survey:

• Not financially prepared: 40 percent
• Bad timing, not ready, or unplanned: 36 percent
• Partner-related reasons (including the relationship is bad or new, she doesn't want to be a single mother, her partner is not supportive, does not want the baby, is abusive, or is the wrong guy): 31 percent
• Need to focus on her other children: 29 percent
• Not emotionally or mentally prepared: 19 percent
• Interferes with educational or vocational plans: 20 percent
• Health-related reasons (includes concern for her own health, the health of the fetus, use of prescription or non-prescription drugs, alcohol, or tobacco): 12 percent
• Want a better life for a baby than she could provide: 12 percent
• Not independent or mature enough for a baby: 7 percent
• Influences from family or friends: 5 percent
• Doesn't want a baby or to place the baby for adoption: 4 percent
• Partner-related issues: 31 percent

Oh yes. Because CNN is "always right".

NOT.

There is NO good reason to kill an innocent baby!

 

[TheIndianGirl]

I agree abortion is not right (except in cases of rape/incest, health of mother). I don't think any girl/woman should be forced to carry her father's baby, etc. Any disagreement on this? My whole point is that the blame of abortion is placed unfairly entirely on the woman.

 

[Camess]

I agree abortion is not right (except in cases of rape/incest, health of mother). I don't think any girl/woman should be forced to carry her father's baby, etc. Any disagreement on this? My whole point is that the blame of abortion is placed unfairly entirely on the woman.

I disagree.

It is ultimately the woman's decision to kill her baby. So yes women ARE to blame. Others may help convince, but the woman decides.

 

[John146]

I agree abortion is not right (except in cases of rape/incest, health of mother). I don't think any girl/woman should be forced to carry her father's baby, etc. Any disagreement on this? My whole point is that the blame of abortion is placed unfairly entirely on the woman.

You still do not believe it is a child within the womb as stated by God?

 

[TheIndianGirl]

You still do not believe it is a child within the womb as stated by God?

It is a child but here the health of the mother both emotion and physical is being jeapodized. Most of these girls are suicidal. So yes, I believe abortion should be an option in these instances. Father in this case has no rights to the child because of rape/incest.

 

[49]

Do you consider a miscarriage an abortion? Do you consider a failed ectopic pregnancy an abortion? In other words what is the definition of "abortion" that you are using? Before simply saying "Abortion is murder" I need to know what you are referring to specifically.

Really???????

 

[Camess]

It is a child but here the health of the mother both emotion and physical is being jeapodized. Most of these girls are suicidal. So yes, I believe abortion should be an option in these instances. Father in this case has no rights to the child because of rape/incest.

You forget the CHILD'S right to live! It has no say over how he/she is conceived. Killing a harmless, defenseless baby is the same as MURDERING A CHILD OR ADULT and should be treated the same!

 

[tourist]

In your words, my mother should have aborted my sister (the result of a rape by dark-skinned French soldiers shortly after the end of World War II)? And I should not have been aborted because my "father" had left my mother penniless, even if she hated and neglected and beaten us both?
We lived in the Adenauer era in the fifties and sixties. A time when women were blamed when women were raped and abandoned.
We both experienced hell on earth. It would have been better for us if my mother had the right to have an abortion.

I listed a few exceptions but never stated a woman had to abort anyone regardless of the circumstances of the pregnancy Also, I judge no one either way because as a man I am not the one who has to carry the child full-term.

I consider abortion to be murder but would not say at all that a woman who has had an abortion is a murderer because that's between her and God. What your mother went through had to have been horrible and it is inexcusable for your father to leave the family, especially penniless.

So again, in my words, I believe that abortion is murder but would not pass judgement on a woman who chose to have an abortion regards of the reason or circumstances.

I hope that his clarifies my position on the matter of abortion.

 

[tourist]

Abstinence. The way to go.

Absolutely.