I am in agreement with this statement of yours.A born again believer is justified, declared innocent by God.
This means it is impossible to lose one's salvation.
I am in agreement with this statement of yours.A born again believer is justified, declared innocent by God.
This means it is impossible to lose one's salvation.
And who is it that will believe in the things of the Spirit? Only those that have the Holy Spirit within them by God quickening them to a new spiritual life, Eph 2. The natural man, before he has been quickened to a new spiritual life, thinks that the things of the Spirit are foolishness, and he cannot discern them, 1 Cor 2:14.Acts 16.30
29¶Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,
30And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
Well you need to turn from all your sins , confess your sins , promise total commitment and to make Jesus the Lord of your pocket book ,if he's not Lord of all then he's not Lord at all , be baptised for the remission of your sins , workout your salvation with fear ,doing deeds of faith , tithe , endure to the end , clean the church toilets and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and ....?
31¶And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
See my post #1322.//There is a different response when those that stoned Steven for preaching the same message. They were "cut to the heart" These two groups of people had different hearts. Those in Acts that were "pricked" had been given a new heart in regeneration.
Do you have a verse that says you have to turn from sin to gain the new birth ? And you mentioned nothing about ' believing the gosepl?
1 cor 1 21For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that turn from their sins , confess , be baptised ?...no .
believe.
Believing in spiritual things, repenting of breaking a spiritual law, confessing to a spiritual entity, being baptised, are all the actions of a person that has already been quickened to a new spiritual life, Eph 2. All of these kinds of actions are looked upon as foolishness to the natural man that has not been quickened to a new spiritual life, 1 Cor 2:14.//There is a different response when those that stoned Steven for preaching the same message. They were "cut to the heart" These two groups of people had different hearts. Those in Acts that were "pricked" had been given a new heart in regeneration.
Do you have a verse that says you have to turn from sin to gain the new birth ? And you mentioned nothing about ' believing the gosepl?
1 cor 1 21For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that turn from their sins , confess , be baptised ?...no .
believe.
Ezekiel 11:19, And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you, and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and I will give them an heart of flesh (soft heart). Cornelius was a devout man, who had a heart transplant. Keep in mind what "save" means in Greek= deliver.The two reactions are a result of a self hardened heart and a non self hardened heart . Acts 7.51 v a Cornelius for example .
It would be helpful then for you to understand that "Justified" is a legal standing and there is no double jeopardy.
God does not declare someone innocent and then declare them guilty.
This cannot happen by the very reason for the work of Christ Jesus, to declare men innocent, for those who receive His gift of salvation.
If you read on down to verse 6, Timothy calls these that will do these things in later times, "brethren".
Yes, we are in the "later times".It may later time for them, but It Seem happening now
People teach not to Eat some food, It Seem to be sda
Teach not married, catholic priest.
Yes, we are in the "later times".
No I see in context the word saved , saves , salvation , delivered ect . The context of each shows you . Like when it say s ' he who endures to the end shall be saved ' those that hold to conditional salvation and Calvinists ( The P in Tulip ) see this to mean the beginning of your walk with the Lord and till you die, not seeing the context of the Tribulation.And who is it that will believe in the things of the Spirit? Only those that have the Holy Spirit within them by God quickening them to a new spiritual life, Eph 2. The natural man, before he has been quickened to a new spiritual life, thinks that the things of the Spirit are foolishness, and he cannot discern them, 1 Cor 2:14.
If you are interpreting all of the scriptures that have the words "saved, salvation, save", in them to mean eternal salvation, you are misinterpreting the scriptures.
Save, saved, salvation, according to Greek interpretation means= deliver, delivered, deliverance. We are only delivered one time to eternal life. If we have been born again to a new spiritual life, we are delivered many times as we sojourn here on this earth. from the punishment of a sin that we commit every time we repent, and God forgives us.
whats your understanding of OSAS ?So we are in the time where some people lose his faith > salvation
And Losing salvation is posible, not Osas
Calvinists take note of the similarities here .Believing in spiritual things, repenting of breaking a spiritual law, confessing to a spiritual entity, being baptised, are all the actions of a person that has already been quickened to a new spiritual life, Eph 2. All of these kinds of actions are looked upon as foolishness to the natural man that has not been quickened to a new spiritual life, 1 Cor 2:14.
Ezekiel is talking about Israel ..look at the context .Ezekiel 11:19, And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you, and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and I will give them an heart of flesh (soft heart). Cornelius was a devout man, who had a heart transplant. Keep in mind what "save" means in Greek= deliver.
Once you have been quickened to a new spiritual life (born again) you cannot be unborn. All born again christians do not lose their fleshly nature and battle within themselves between the flesh and the Spirit. Paul explains this battle in Rom 9:18-23.So we are in the time where some people lose his faith > salvation
And Losing salvation is posible, not Osas
You have forgotten that God changed Jacob's name to be no more called Jacob, but to be called Israel Gen 33:28. Jacob represents God's elect Rom 9:11, which encompases people from every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation Rev 5:9Calvinists take note of the similarities here .
Ezekiel is talking about Israel ..look at the context .
I have never consulted these men's writings, and my belief is that scripture proves scripture, and should be our only source of gleaning the truths contained in the scriptures, along with the revelation of the Holy Spirit within those who have been regenerated.No I see in context the word saved , saves , salvation , delivered ect . The context of each shows you . Like when it say s ' he who endures to the end shall be saved ' those that hold to conditional salvation and Calvinists ( The P in Tulip ) see this to mean the beginning of your walk with the Lord and till you die, not seeing the context of the Tribulation.
And I see that you may believe in Previeniant Grace ( John wesley/ Arminian ) which is similar to Calvinists version except you can resist . But you perhaps hold to a similar ' Total inabilty 'view where God has to partially regenerate you so that you can believe or reject ? Found no where in the bible however.
The tribulation came with the destruction of Jerusalem, and the temple where there were not one stone standing on the other.No I see in context the word saved , saves , salvation , delivered ect . The context of each shows you . Like when it say s ' he who endures to the end shall be saved ' those that hold to conditional salvation and Calvinists ( The P in Tulip ) see this to mean the beginning of your walk with the Lord and till you die, not seeing the context of the Tribulation.
And I see that you may believe in Previeniant Grace ( John wesley/ Arminian ) which is similar to Calvinists version except you can resist . But you perhaps hold to a similar ' Total inabilty 'view where God has to partially regenerate you so that you can believe or reject ? Found no where in the bible however.
Once save always save, never lose your salvationwhats your understanding of OSAS ?
Whosoever believe Jesus Will be saveThe tribulation came with the destruction of Jerusalem, and the temple where there were not one stone standing on the other.
Endureth unto the end requires works, and there is no works involved in eternal deliverance, leaving this "saved" to mean delivered here in time, by our good works.
And, yes, Jesus did not die for all mankind, only those that God gave to his Son.
What do you believe its based on ? How do you believe OSAS is taught ? What's your understanding of the reasons given for OSAS ?Once save always save, never lose your salvation
What do you believe its based on ? How do you believe OSAS is taught ? What's your understanding of the reasons given for OSAS ?