If Jesus is God, why did he ask why God had forsaken him?

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Dino246

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BuffyLou said:
I'm not really a Satanist lol
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Of course you aren't. You are, however, a pot-stirrer, making wild claims just to get a reaction.

How about you demonstrate some maturity and either engage intelligently in the conversations you start, or find something better to do? So far, most of what I see is you playing games.
 
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BuffyLou

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Dino246 said:
Of course you aren't. You are, however, a pot-stirrer, making wild claims just to get a reaction.

How about you demonstrate some maturity and either engage intelligently in the conversations you start, or find something better to do? So far, most of what I see is you playing games.
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What do you want
 
JaumeJ

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BuffyLou said:
Did Jesus even actually explicitly claim he was God?
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It is a very good idea to study or at least read the writings before commenting uon htem.

Jesus Christ, said He is God in many places of the Word beginning in the Old Testament.

So the responsse to your quesstion is a hearty Yes He did.

As for poly theism, when Moses asked what title he should give for God to the Children of Isreael, God told him that He wuold be what He will be. If it suits Him to appear as the Holy Spirit He can and will. If He chooses to show Himself as the Father He can and will.

And when He chooses to show Himself as our Redeemer He can H did and He will.

There are reerences to all of this in the Book, but you should read it before asking more questioons since you have not alreaady. May God purswuad youdd for I cannot.
 
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BuffyLou

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JaumeJ said:
It is a very good idea to study or at least read the writings before commenting uon htem.

Jesus Christ, said He is God in many places of the Word beginning in the Old Testament.

So the responsse to your quesstion is a hearty Yes He did.

As for poly theism, when Moses asked what title he should give for God to the Children of Isreael, God told him that He wuold be what He will be. If it suits Him to appear as the Holy Spirit He can and will. If He chooses to show Himself as the Father He can and will.

And when He chooses to show Himself as our Redeemer He can H did and He will.

There are reerences to all of this in the Book, but you should read it before asking more questioons since you have not alreaady. May God purswuad youdd for I cannot.
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Jesus doesn't feature in the Old Testament
 
Dino246

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BuffyLou said:
Okay. Message me on here that I may learn more.
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In light of your behaviour so far on this forum, I think that publicly-viewable communication is the only appropriate medium.

Here is the gospel, in a nutshell:
You (and everyone else) is a sinner, guilty before God. The certain consequence of sin is death - eternal separation from God. However, God is loving and patient, and does not want you to be separated from Him. Therefore He provided a way for you to be reconciled: He came and lived on earth as a human man, Jesus, Who died on the cross and made an acceptable sacrifice for sin. By believing in the Person and finished work of Jesus, you will inherit the eternal life that God offers.
 
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BuffyLou

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Dino246 said:
In light of your behaviour so far on this forum, I think that publicly-viewable communication is the only appropriate medium.

Here is the gospel, in a nutshell:
You (and everyone else) is a sinner, guilty before God. The certain consequence of sin is death - eternal separation from God. However, God is loving and patient, and does not want you to be separated from Him. Therefore He provided a way for you to be reconciled: He came and lived on earth as a human man, Jesus, Who died on the cross and made an acceptable sacrifice for sin. By believing in the Person and finished work of Jesus, you will inherit the eternal life that God offers.
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I thought God was omnipresent
 
posthuman

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He has not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted;​
Nor has He hidden His face from Him;​
But when He cried to Him, He heard.​
(Psalm 22:24)​

Psalm 22 is a duet. the song has a name, it is called "the hind of the morning" ((see verse 1))
Israel is the hind ((deer)). the Son of Man on the cross is taking Israel's place -- and there is great irony in that Israel is looking at God, thinking He is forsaken by God, yet there is God doing exactly the opposite of forsaking them, in fact saving them: just as the hind in the song thinks it is forsaken, but it is not.

@BuffyLou i understand i'm effectively casting pearls before swine here and you do not comprehend the things you are posting about, nor, i suspect, do you honestly seek to.
but let it be a witness either to you today, or against you on the last day.
 
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BuffyLou

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posthuman said:
He has not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted;​
Nor has He hidden His face from Him;​
But when He cried to Him, He heard.​
(Psalm 22:24)​

Psalm 22 is a duet. the song has a name, it is called "the hind of the morning" ((see verse 1))
Israel is the hind ((deer)). the Son of Man on the cross is taking Israel's place -- and there is great irony in that Israel is looking at God, thinking He is forsaken by God, yet there is God doing exactly the opposite of forsaking them, in fact saving them: just as the hind in the song thinks it is forsaken, but it is not.

@BuffyLou i understand i'm effectively casting pearls before swine here and you do not comprehend the things you are posting about, nor, i suspect, do you honestly seek to.
but let it be a witness either to you today, or against you on the last day.
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I'm literally convinced Jesus is God.
 
JaumeJ

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BuffyLou said:
Jesus doesn't feature in the Old Testament
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You prove now you have never read the Old Testament. Read it, then get back to anhyone here.
 
Rosemaryx

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I thought the reason why Jesus said " Why have you forsaken Me " was because His Father could not look upon the sin that He had to endure , and in that moment , our LORD for the one and only time felt the separation from His Father...

Like I said , it is not something I know for sure , but just a thought...
...xox...
 
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