You're talking past @eternally-gratefull and not hearing what he said. He's not disagreeing with you, slow down and grasp what was written. You both agree salvation is by faith not works.
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But you did, you came and criticized my post about context, ridiculed it, judged it, shamed for it, belittled it, were flippant about it, then claimed how you're full of love 💕as if that neutralized your baseless criticism.
Remember now?
Don't like being challenged over criticizing another's post? Then don't do it. How about that?
My point stands, you're out on a limb, context is of utmost importance. It is where we derive sound doctrine from scripture; 2 Timothy 2:15; 2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Timothy 4:1ff. All cults and sects hate context. That's a fact.
The Holy spirit is a spirit of Truth, and will always teach the word according to its intended meaning, in context, something you've taught yourself to hate by your own admission.
Remember now?
Don't like being challenged over criticizing another's post? Then don't do it. How about that?
My point stands, you're out on a limb, context is of utmost importance. It is where we derive sound doctrine from scripture; 2 Timothy 2:15; 2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Timothy 4:1ff. All cults and sects hate context. That's a fact.
The Holy spirit is a spirit of Truth, and will always teach the word according to its intended meaning, in context, something you've taught yourself to hate by your own admission.
Oh but I didnt!
I wasn't directing my post to anyone.
Context is spoken about in EVERY thread .
If you took exception,that's on you.
I'm not on cc for anything but fellowship and growth.
I have been wrong spirited in some of my post in personal attacks for which I apologized.
I have even like some of your post. If I agree it's bc I like the word not by personality
for some here lack likable personalities!
So take it to Him in prayer and get over yourself!
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Ah, I see the issue. I do not agree in FGT, that a person makes a one time decision, and is guaranteed heaven.
The reason I don't buy that error is because Scripture qualifies what a true believer is, showing marks of true conversion, and marks of false conversion.
If a person lives in the practice of sin they are deceived, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11.
Many will show them, when they doubt their conversion 1 John 5:13 to "prove" they are saved, yet in context that verse is written about true converts, those who pass the tests of evidence of conversion in the book 1 John, and it is said to them, not to false converts who don't pass said tests and who deny evidence of conversion being a biblical truth.
The reason I don't buy that error is because Scripture qualifies what a true believer is, showing marks of true conversion, and marks of false conversion.
If a person lives in the practice of sin they are deceived, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11.
Many will show them, when they doubt their conversion 1 John 5:13 to "prove" they are saved, yet in context that verse is written about true converts, those who pass the tests of evidence of conversion in the book 1 John, and it is said to them, not to false converts who don't pass said tests and who deny evidence of conversion being a biblical truth.
Oh but you did!
Right after you gave a dislike to my post supporting context, you made yours deriding context.
It is very easy to follow the narrative, it was your intent, which is why right after you disagreed you posted your contrary response.
But you didn't expect to be called out on it. You need to learn to love the word "context."
Right after you gave a dislike to my post supporting context, you made yours deriding context.
It is very easy to follow the narrative, it was your intent, which is why right after you disagreed you posted your contrary response.
But you didn't expect to be called out on it. You need to learn to love the word "context."
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What is truly sad is that you've failed to read the narrative and context and instead offer blind support because you know who this person is opposing, and to you any opposition to said person (me) is to be blindly supported just to get another jab in.
You know, like when you bully others for liking my posts?
If you bothered to read the conversation you would see he is in error and is ridiculing scripture used in proper context, Greek language understanding, and ridiculing me for believing in its proper usage.
What is truly "sad" is you're blindly supporting that due to your hate of another believer, so any ridicule of said person (me) will do. 1 John 4:20.
You know, like when you bully others for liking my posts?
If you bothered to read the conversation you would see he is in error and is ridiculing scripture used in proper context, Greek language understanding, and ridiculing me for believing in its proper usage.
What is truly "sad" is you're blindly supporting that due to your hate of another believer, so any ridicule of said person (me) will do. 1 John 4:20.
Your post was 565 @preacher4truth ,mine was 589.
Get real,you are NOT that important that you would have an influence on what I post!
Your type of bullying is insidious and smooth but you fool no one....ignore you go!
Get real,you are NOT that important that you would have an influence on what I post!
Your type of bullying is insidious and smooth but you fool no one....ignore you go!
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God is Faithful, if I died in that state I was still a son, I would have still been risen to eternal life. I had the seal of the spirit as my pledge,
my faith is in God, not my ability to be righteous, in my ability all I can do is walk away, but as Jesus said, he is my good shepherd and I know his voice, and thanks be to him when he leaves the flock to come find me, I follow, it may not be immediately, I am after all a dumb sheep, but it happens.
my faith is in God, not my ability to be righteous, in my ability all I can do is walk away, but as Jesus said, he is my good shepherd and I know his voice, and thanks be to him when he leaves the flock to come find me, I follow, it may not be immediately, I am after all a dumb sheep, but it happens.
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Bullying? Lol!!!!!
Oh, please! Post # means nothing, you posted your retort to ridicule what I stated right after you gave mine the old thumbs down. That's exactly what you did and why you posted it. Stop playing coy like you came up with that topic on your own, your post was designed to belittle others and to exalt your self-proclaimed super spirituality.
You went through the thread liking, disliking, then right after you hit mine you put your rebuttal out there saying in essence how evil and ungodly context and actual teaching is.
Frankly your post was asinine, out of line, dangerous and churlish. All cults use out of context Scripture, and so do you.
Now, I don't care if you don't like my teaching, but when you get deceitful about your responses, that's another issue. Own your behavior and hypocrisy.
Oh, and embrace the word context. 👍
Oh, please! Post # means nothing, you posted your retort to ridicule what I stated right after you gave mine the old thumbs down. That's exactly what you did and why you posted it. Stop playing coy like you came up with that topic on your own, your post was designed to belittle others and to exalt your self-proclaimed super spirituality.
You went through the thread liking, disliking, then right after you hit mine you put your rebuttal out there saying in essence how evil and ungodly context and actual teaching is.
Frankly your post was asinine, out of line, dangerous and churlish. All cults use out of context Scripture, and so do you.
Now, I don't care if you don't like my teaching, but when you get deceitful about your responses, that's another issue. Own your behavior and hypocrisy.
Oh, and embrace the word context. 👍
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Just Jo, I understand that some people (probably including myself) use context and the Greek as a hammer to pound a point. And I agree with you that they can be overused, and sometimes they are used to belittle others. I am sad about that and where I have done it I repent.
But that does not change that context is very critical to interpret a text. When done properly, understanding what a verse means in the context of the passage deepens and beautifies its meaning. And the Greek has added such a depth of meaning and love and grace to my understanding of some texts: I remember with great fondness my aged virtuous Greek teacher sharing some of these nuggets of truth with tears running down his face!
See above
And I think that you did not hear Just Jo - She is a lady with a huge heart - and so her frustration came out in a few texts, and I bet with a slowed down understanding approach the conflict could have been minimized.
Ah, sad, I hate when people have to be put on ignore --
But that does not change that context is very critical to interpret a text. When done properly, understanding what a verse means in the context of the passage deepens and beautifies its meaning. And the Greek has added such a depth of meaning and love and grace to my understanding of some texts: I remember with great fondness my aged virtuous Greek teacher sharing some of these nuggets of truth with tears running down his face!
See above
And I think that you did not hear Just Jo - She is a lady with a huge heart - and so her frustration came out in a few texts, and I bet with a slowed down understanding approach the conflict could have been minimized.
Ah, sad, I hate when people have to be put on ignore --
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