LET THE WOMAN LEARN IN SILENCE - WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS MEANS?

[SoulWeaver]

Phoebe a female wasn't a Deacon in the Church, that would be your adding to the scripture.

God's words and instruction are very clear.

A Pastor/Bishop/Deacon is to be a man and the (Husband) of one wife, women are excluded from these offices.

1 Timothy 3:1-13 King James Version (KJV)
3 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;
9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.
10 And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless.
11 Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.
12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
13 For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.

I didn't add anything. I posted what it says in Greek. Have you even looked at the concordance that I posted?
Same word in Rom 16:1 is used for Phoebe that appears in Timothy.
You are the one adding your opinion and interpretation and wrestling the original text.
The fact that she was sent to Rome to as a representative by the apostles, only attests to her position in church.

 

[Lion222]

I had my fill.
If you all are finished chewing on this sacred cow.
Lets move on to speaking with people about things they might be able to hear.

If you feel the need to keep arguing please go back to BDF and start a I wanna argue about this post.

 

[Truth7t7]

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

I repeat: nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Your response has absolutely nothing to do with the fact Men that are Married, are to hold the offices of Pastor/Bishop/Deacon

Women are excluded from these offices.

God's words and instruction are very clear.

A Pastor/Bishop/Deacon is to be a man and the (Husband) of one wife, women are excluded from these offices.

1 Timothy 3:1-13 King James Version (KJV)
3 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;
9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.
10 And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless.
11 Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.
12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
13 For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.

 

[Truth7t7]

I didn't add anything. I posted what it says in Greek. Have you even looked at the concordance that I posted?
Same word in Rom 16:1 is used for Phoebe that appears in Timothy.
You are the one adding your opinion and interpretation and wrestling the original text.
The fact that she was sent to Rome to as a representative by the apostles, only attests to her position in church.

God's words and instruction are very clear.

A Pastor/Bishop/Deacon is to be a man and the (Husband) of one wife, women are excluded from these offices.

1 Timothy 3:1-13 King James Version (KJV)
3 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;
9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.
10 And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless.
11 Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.
12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
13 For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.

 

[SoulWeaver]

God's words and instruction are very clear.

A Pastor/Bishop/Deacon is to be a man and the (Husband) of one wife, women are excluded from these offices.

1 Timothy 3:1-13 King James Version (KJV)
3 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;
9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.
10 And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless.
11 Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.
12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
13 For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Yeah, because your understanding of Scripture = God's instruction... Pope wants to know your location
Phoebe was a deacon, Strong's Greek 1249, the same word used in Timothy...

 

[Truth7t7]

LOL! Of all the things to focus on in that pic, you noticed the abs??!! That's funny. So I take it you're not a fan of Michelangelo? You like some Peter Paul Rubens better?

Does Angela call herself a pastor (or deacon or anything like that)? Or is she just someone who talks with you about Jesus?

My contention is that a woman can not be a conservative preacher of Christianity unless she's a total hypocrite. She must do some fancy interpreting of scripture in order to justify her role as a pastor. And that fancy interpretation comes from a liberal Christian viewpoint. Furthermore liberal Christianity has quite a bit of correlation to leftist social/political views. So you wind up going to church for some Christianity, but you get there and just get a big dose of gay pride. No thanks.

I agree, and your previous post was spot on also

A female can't be a pastor ordained by the Holy Spirit, contrary to scripture.

I live in California, Many Churches have been taken over by the radical left, rainbow flags, practicing homosexuals at the pulpits.

A sign if the times, we are in the Last Days

 

[Truth7t7]

Yeah, because your understanding of Scripture = God's instruction... Pope wants to know your location
Phoebe was a deacon, Strong's Greek 1249, the same word used in Timothy...

Pope Wants To Know My Location?

Is that some sort of threat, are you now stalking me?

 

[SoulWeaver]

Pope Wants To Know My Location?

Is that some sort of threat, are you now stalking me?

Lol no, it is a meme. When someone thinks alike to you, people say it as a joke "such and such wants to know your location"
It's very common in YouTube comments.
I was pointing out that pope, like you, also thinks his view of Scripture = God's instruction.

 

[SoulWeaver]

Pope Wants To Know My Location?

Is that some sort of threat, are you now stalking me?

Google "know your location meme". I was making a point.
I have been on this site for a long time.
Never threatened or stalked anybody.

 

[Susanna]

Yeah, because your understanding of Scripture = God's instruction... Pope wants to know your location
Phoebe was a deacon, Strong's Greek 1249, the same word used in Timothy...

He knows everything about everything. Man ain’t never being wrong about nothing😁.

 

[Susanna]

I agree, and your previous post was spot on also

A female can't be a pastor ordained by the Holy Spirit, contrary to scripture.

I live in California, Many Churches have been taken over by the radical left, rainbow flags, practicing homosexuals at the pulpits.

A sign if the times, we are in the Last Days

And you belong to what church?

 

[SoulWeaver]

He knows everything about everything. Man ain’t never being wrong about nothing😁.

The Scripture is wrong, I retract everything I posted, diaconon Phoebe was sent to Rome to make sammiches for the guys in the church... and then go back to her kitchen. Paul commended her in Rom 16 because she made him some unsurpassed subs before.

 

[oldethennew]

ROM. :2.
And be not conformed to this world: but be you transformed by the renewing of your mind,
that you may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

 

[lenna]

Women not only still experience pain during childbirth, countless women (only God knows an exact number) die giving birth.

The United States is the only developed country with a rising death rate for pregnant or new mothers.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wave3.com/2020/02/18/father-sues-los-angeles-hospital-after-wife-dies-during-childbirth/?outputType=amp

I thought about this further and this has what to do with God pronouncing the effects of their disobedience on Adam and Eve? Maybe let us take a look at what is going on with pregnancy in this country to begin with.

First, black women have the highest incidence of abortion but there is plenty of this to go around. Does anyone think there are consequences for all the thousands and thousands of abortions in the USA? I certainly think there are consequences and maybe even curses as each helpless life is sacrificed and people move further and further away from God.

The US is the one that tells everyone else how to live, so there would be the biggest responsibility with regards to affecting others

So while that link seems so shocking, it is not applicable to anything but the last 30 years or so and the growing load of sin that people commit . God says to choose Him and have life.

 

[lenna]

Can you be both alive and dead?
The body is dead because of sin, that has not changed.
But the Spirit is alive because of Christ Jesus.
Though outwardly you are decaying, hopefully inwardly you are being renewed.

doesn't change a thing Galatians states

 

[lenna]

The Scripture is wrong, I retract everything I posted, diaconon Phoebe was sent to Rome to make sammiches for the guys in the church... and then go back to her kitchen. Paul commended her in Rom 16 because she made him some unsurpassed subs before.

is the recipe in scripture? I might be interested

 

[lenna]

God's words and instruction are very clear.

that can be true but not always as seen from your responses

 

[oldethennew]

Pricilla is one of our 'heros', along with her husband...

 

[lenna]

I had my fill.
If you all are finished chewing on this sacred cow.
Lets move on to speaking with people about things they might be able to hear.

If you feel the need to keep arguing please go back to BDF and start a I wanna argue about this post.

right. we should rather chew on your male counterpart of a cow

typical

ps. no one here takes orders from you. you started the rabbit trail

 

[Blik]

Phoebe a female wasn't a Deacon in the Church, that would be your adding to the scripture.
.

Romans 16: 1 I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a deacon of the church in Cenchreae.

Cenchreae is a town near Corinth.