Trump Outsmarts them again

[lenna]

I maybe getting too exited too early but I am projecting an end to this crisis by next year. Oh people will keep getting sick for years but they will be people who don't want to get the vaccine. The vaccinated can go back to life as normal. Woo Hoooo. Probably going to be available by January or Feb. That is what I am hoping for. I want to start preaching the Gospel in the Jails.

It's a little obvious you are pro vaccine and prefer not to pay attention to anything that might detract you from that persuasion. So woo hooo to quote you and you'll see it's not like you think it is. Hope all you want. I prefer the facts and I am not pro vaccine for this and good reasons why not as per the links I posted to.

with regards to the highlighted above, remember 9/11? how everything changed after that and never snapped back to 'normal'? Ditto this covid 19 pandemic and please remember I did say so and don't be puzzled when it does not work out quite like you think it will.

I suppose it's admirable enough to desire to minister and being unable to because of all the shut downs, but reality may not have quite set in yet.

Anyway, God bless you in your endeavors but we sure do not have the same outlook on the vaccine business.

 

[cv5]

Next thing you know who you will have people on this thread telling us to take the mark of the beast to get on with life whooooo hooooo.

Praise God for the rapture and praise God the fact that we will not suffer wrath in the Tribulation, therefore that ominous threat does not affect Christians.

 

[gb9]

i have thought this myself- Christians will be taking the mark while saying " oh, it's not he mark of the beast, it's just a chip to make buying and selling easier and safer...

 

[Scribe]

i have thought this myself- Christians will be taking the mark while saying " oh, it's not he mark of the beast, it's just a chip to make buying and selling easier and safer...

The text of the scriptures concerning the mark seem to connect it to worshipping the image of the beast. God does not condemn people to the Lake of Fire because they decide not to use cash and use their debit card instead and so this mark will be more than just that kind of decision.

 

[PennEd]

The text of the scriptures concerning the mark seem to connect it to worshipping the image of the beast. God does not condemn people to the Lake of Fire because they decide not to use cash and use their debit card instead and so this mark will be more than just that kind of decision.

It is NOT just a “debit card “. It is something in your body.

Nobody is objecting to credi or debit cards. That’s a straw man.

Further, it may actually have nothing to do with the funds used to buy or sell. It may in fact be some type of mark to prove you have been vaccinated. The technology already exists, and politicians and others are talking about it.

 

[Scribe]

It is NOT just a “debit card “. It is something in your body.

Nobody is objecting to credi or debit cards. That’s a straw man.

My point is that they wont be saying "oh it is just a convenient way to buy or sell and not know they are getting the mark. There will be the whole worshipping of an image they will deserve the Lake of Fire for their sin of worshipping the image not for their sin of not using cash. And I don't think the Image will be made of straw. Probably something more durable.

 

[cv5]

It is NOT just a “debit card “. It is something in your body.

Nobody is objecting to credi or debit cards. That’s a straw man.

Further, it may actually have nothing to do with the funds used to buy or sell. It may in fact be some type of mark to prove you have been vaccinated. The technology already exists, and politicians and others are talking about it.

IMO The present circumstances are conditioning people for a future mark of the beast. In other words in infrastructure has to be in place, which is being built on the back of the pandemic.

 

[Scribe]

IMO The present circumstances are conditioning people for a future mark of the beast. In other words in infrastructure has to be in place, which is being built on the back of the pandemic.

Electronic transactions will probably be involved but when it gets down to it a dictator can start a whole new process if he wanted to. I dont worry about figuring out the methods. That could all be different than what we speculated.

 

[gb9]

The text of the scriptures concerning the mark seem to connect it to worshipping the image of the beast. God does not condemn people to the Lake of Fire because they decide not to use cash and use their debit card instead and so this mark will be more than just that kind of decision.

sure, it's just a chip, no big deal.

it's not really a beast, it's just some slick, good looking man in custom made suit.

i'm not really worshiping, i am just bowing down...

keep thinking you can be a Christian while at the same time deny what the Bible says.

see how far this gets you.

 

[Scribe]

It is NOT just a “debit card “. It is something in your body.

Nobody is objecting to credi or debit cards. That’s a straw man.

Further, it may actually have nothing to do with the funds used to buy or sell. It may in fact be some type of mark to prove you have been vaccinated. The technology already exists, and politicians and others are talking about it.

Vaccinations seem to not fit on so many levels. 1) Why would the Antichrist want to protect people from dying, if he is possessed by the Devil seems like death would be more his cup of tea. 2) Why would getting a vaccination condemn someone to the Lake of Fire? Tracking is already being done, it is your phone. I enjoy looking at my timeline in Google Maps every so often just to see where I have been. Yes, I know I can turn it off. But we also know that there are other ways that the tracking works besides the location tracking data option that you can turn off. The ping data can be analyzed from the phone company so there is that.

 

[Scribe]

sure, it's just a chip, no big deal.

it's not really a beast, it's just some slick, good looking man in custom made suit.

i'm not really worshiping, i am just bowing down...

keep thinking you can be a Christian while at the same time deny what the Bible says.

see how far this gets you.

Funny you should say that because so many keep living a worldly life and yielding to their lusts while claiming to be a Christian and trying to present an external image that is fake, and all the while claiming that they would never bow to the image or take the mark.
Titus 1:16
They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

I think they will be the first to bow down. If a person cannot say no to a porn addiction today they will not give their lives for Christ in the day of that Wicked.

 

[Scribe]

It is NOT just a “debit card “. It is something in your body.

Nobody is objecting to credi or debit cards. That’s a straw man.

Further, it may actually have nothing to do with the funds used to buy or sell. It may in fact be some type of mark to prove you have been vaccinated. The technology already exists, and politicians and others are talking about it.

As much as I am looking forward to a safe and effective vaccine for COVID 19 if they want to put it in my forehead, or back of my hand, I am going to politely decline.

 

[gb9]

Funny you should say that because so many keep living a worldly life and yielding to their lusts while claiming to be a Christian and trying to present an external image that is fake, and all the while claiming that they would never bow to the image or take the mark.
Titus 1:16
They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

I think they will be the first to bow down. If a person cannot say no to a porn addiction today they will not give their lives for Christ in the day of that Wicked.

nice dodge.

but, i will proclaim- yes, i sin, yes i could live for Jesus better than what i do.


but, if i do go to hell, it will NOT be because i took a chip and bowed a knee to the anti-Christ.

 

[PennEd]

Vaccinations seem to not fit on so many levels. 1) Why would the Antichrist want to protect people from dying, if he is possessed by the Devil seems like death would be more his cup of tea. 2) Why would getting a vaccination condemn someone to the Lake of Fire? Tracking is already being done, it is your phone. I enjoy looking at my timeline in Google Maps every so often just to see where I have been. Yes, I know I can turn it off. But we also know that there are other ways that the tracking works besides the location tracking data option that you can turn off. The ping data can be analyzed from the phone company so there is that.

First off I want to be clear I am not declaring definitively that the vaccine / and or biometric verification of receiving the vaccine is the Mark.

You seem to be oblivious to the difference between something in your possession, like a phone or credit card, and something that is permanently in your body, like a vaccine or “digital dot tattoo “. That holds your inoculation verification.

You also can’t seem to grasp the concept that both may become mandatory in order to buy and sell.

Everything that I have read and watched on the subject highly suggests that one or both could be the Mark, save ONE thing.
I will grant that as of yet, I have heard no whisper that either must be administered in the right hand or forehead.
Having said that, I will still refuse any vaccine or biometric implant surrounding covid19.

I would be willing to wager that you will not be permitted to engage in any social activity , ie Work, Church, Grocery BUYING OR SELLING shopping etc... without proof of inoculation.
That will be close enough for me to unequivocally say no.

 

[Lanolin]

you can shop online if you want so being unvaccinated wont stop you buying or selling really.
unless your bank account or credit card is not approved I guess.

But even if buying and selling stopped and you couldnt do it, is that the end of the world? you could still survive. People have lived without money before, they just traded by barter.

wasnt it in Germany that their currency was called the deutsche MARK? or D-Mark? if you didnt have it, you couldnt buy or sell, but now they have changed to euros.

 

[lenna]

Funny you should say that because so many keep living a worldyou ly life and yielding to their lusts while claiming to be a Christian and trying to present an external image that is fake, and all the while claiming that they would never bow to the image or take the mark.
Titus 1:16
They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

I think they will be the first to bow down. If a person cannot say no to a porn addiction today they will not give their lives for Christ in the day of that Wicked.

sorry but this response is a classic non sequitur

you do not know nor can you prove who would or not take the mark and worship the beast. they go hand in hand and it is the worship part that would remove them from the Lamb's Book of Life.

I hope you know what a non sequitor is, because it does not make for the best response

 

[lenna]

Titus 1:16
They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

I think they will be the first to bow down. If a person cannot say no to a porn addiction today they will not give their lives for Christ in the day of that Wicked.

if a person has an area of their life they are dealing with but still sin in at times? I would say they might be doing better than someone who would like to collectively admit them to hell by imagining they will worship the beast

you have no grounds upon which to compare a porn addiction with taking the mark. you should include anyone who is battling in some sin and has not yet overcome. like gluttons or gossips or what have you

 

[Scribe]

First off I want to be clear I am not declaring definitively that the vaccine / and or biometric verification of receiving the vaccine is the Mark.

You seem to be oblivious to the difference between something in your possession, like a phone or credit card, and something that is permanently in your body, like a vaccine or “digital dot tattoo “. That holds your inoculation verification.

You also can’t seem to grasp the concept that both may become mandatory in order to buy and sell.

Everything that I have read and watched on the subject highly suggests that one or both could be the Mark, save ONE thing.
I will grant that as of yet, I have heard no whisper that either must be administered in the right hand or forehead.
Having said that, I will still refuse any vaccine or biometric implant surrounding covid19.

I would be willing to wager that you will not be permitted to engage in any social activity , ie Work, Church, Grocery BUYING OR SELLING shopping etc... without proof of inoculation.
That will be close enough for me to unequivocally say no.

Schools have always required it. But not always enforced. To me enforced doesn't make sense. They would only be trying to protect the unvaccinated. I dont forsee the USA adding new vaccination enforcement laws. They will probably enforce the current ones for public schools because they had already started enforcing again due to resurgence of diseases as a result of parents believing misinformation about vaccines. We will see. I wouldnt force my employees as they can't infect the vaccinated and the unvaccinated are willing to risk it.

 

[Scribe]

if a person has an area of their life they are dealing with but still sin in at times? I would say they might be doing better than someone who would like to collectively admit them to hell by imagining they will worship the beast

you have no grounds upon which to compare a porn addiction with taking the mark. you should include anyone who is battling in some sin and has not yet overcome. like gluttons or gossips or what have you

Saying no to the command to sin and worship your lusts because you Love Jesus even if you die resisting temptation is a great way to practice not bowing down to the image of the beast on threat of beheading isn't it?

 

[PennEd]

Schools have always required it. But not always enforced. To me enforced doesn't make sense. They would only be trying to protect the unvaccinated. I dont forsee the USA adding new vaccination enforcement laws. They will probably enforce the current ones for public schools because they had already started enforcing again due to resurgence of diseases as a result of parents believing misinformation about vaccines. We will see. I wouldnt force my employees as they can't infect the vaccinated and the unvaccinated are willing to risk it.

You, and I suspect many others, are about to have your eyes opened. I just hope you remember these conversations when they make this mandatory for everyone.