Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot

[Duskey]

It’s “......your”.........own accurate assessment of my altering viewpoint and a few others.

Which incidentally is a load of cobblers.....

My viewpoint has not altered......

One thing for sure...it’s the complete opposite of your’s.....your a manipulator of words...I can see straight through them......

Accurate

 

[EleventhHour]

The failure falls on the people who call God a liar by not believing in Jesus Christ. But I enjoy your twisting my words.

Amen!!

It would seem standing on the truth of the Gospel becomes less and less popular these days.

We "lack love" supposedly when actually we could be spending time getting manicures and leave people in their misery and false teachings,

 

[garee]

Are you saying it's His will that they(ALL) be saved, yet He fails?

The key is how many of the all in all. They alone are given the power to come as the father draws the many he gave to the Son .

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:


John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Mark 6:56 And whithersoever he entered, into villages, or cities, or country, they laid the sick in the streets, and besought him that they might touch if it were but the border of his garment: and as many as touched him were made whole.

John 8:30 As he spake these words, many believed on him.

 

[SoulWeaver]

This is very true.
Even scripture does not persuade you that we can be deceived.

Not only particular verses. All those churches in the Bible, to whom the apostles were sending their letters, correcting the errors in teachings. The letters themselves are proof. Even Jesus mentions Jezebel teaching His servants, not the world, false teachings (Rev 2:20). I really wish she would reconsider.

 

[Duskey]

Amen!!

It would seem standing on the truth of the Gospel becomes less and less popular these days.

We "lack love" supposedly when actually we could be spending time getting manicures and leave people in their misery and false teachings,

I think I’ll go play in traffic. At least I’ll earn the hand gestures directed at me.

 

[EleventhHour]

Not only particular verses. All those churches in the Bible, to whom the apostles were sending their letters, correcting the errors in teachings which we read in letters. Even Jesus mentions Jezebel teaching His servants, not the world, false teachings (Rev 2:20). I really wish she would reconsider.

Agree, for sure, it is every where in scripture.

 

[Duskey]

Not only particular verses. All those churches in the Bible, to whom the apostles were sending their letters, correcting the errors in teachings. The letters themselves are proof. Even Jesus mentions Jezebel teaching His servants, not the world, false teachings (Rev 2:20). I really wish she would reconsider.

Beautifully stated and 100% correct.

 

[lenna]

Are you saying it's His will that they(ALL) be saved, yet He fails?

 

[jackrosie]

God has just shown me that I was wrong about being deceived..even the elect.
..but they can never be truly lost
So I stand corrected......

 

[garee]

How many of the all? The ones that were given power to come? Would that be enough?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

My heart tells me we have so little time left.

Let’s love each other and stop bickering.

I do not think they see what they look like. Or like some they think they are speaking for God

 

[garee]

The failure falls on the people who call God a liar by not believing in Jesus Christ. But I enjoy your twisting my words.

As in every case he must do the first works, as our first love experience of hearing God not seen.

No man of his own volition can come they must hear the call . it gives them the understanding as to how they then can seek after him who has no form .

Roamns 3:10-12 As the Scriptures say, “There is no one doing what is right, not even one. There is no one who understands. There is no one who is trying to be with God. They have all turned away from him, and now they are of no use to anyone. There is no one who does good, not even one.”

 

[Duskey]

As in every case he must do the first works, as our first love experience of hearing God not seen.

No man of his own volition can come they must hear the call . it gives them the understanding as to how they then can seek after him who has no form .

Roamns 3:10-12 As the Scriptures say, “There is no one doing what is right, not even one. There is no one who understands. There is no one who is trying to be with God. They have all turned away from him, and now they are of no use to anyone. There is no one who does good, not even one.”

Never said otherwise, friend.

 

[garee]

Never said otherwise, friend.

Then its him that choses us in as many as he gave to the Son?

 

[NOV25]

 

[Duskey]

Then its him that choses us in as many as he gave to the Son?

He gives us the opportunity to receive Him. It’s our choice to do so or not.

 

[Guojing]

He gives us the opportunity to receive Him. It’s our choice to do so or not.

So you also believe in limited atonement, that salvation is limited to those who exercise their choice to receive him?

 

[garee]

He gives us the opportunity to receive Him. It’s our choice to do so or not.

Is the opportunity the drawing of faith as it works in us we can believe ? And without it we cannot hear the voice of His faith . He must do the first works giving us ears to understand what the Spirit is saying to us so that then we can in turn seek after Him who has no form .The first experience of his love working in us, with us, making the load lighter. The love we return or repent to when we fall away from it.

 

[Duskey]

He must do the first works giving us ears to understand what the Spirit is saying to us so that then we can in turn seek after Him who has no form.

I never said otherwise

 

[Duskey]

So you also believe in limited atonement, that salvation is limited to those who exercise their choice to receive him?

I believe in Jesus Christ.