Can a murderer enter into heaven ?

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MyrtleTrees

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Can a murderer enter into heaven ?
No, not unless he repents of his sins, and accepts Jesus as Savior and Lord (God) of his life. Paul the apostle used to be a murderer - but He accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior of his life, and repented of his sins. And remained faithful to God until he died. So for sure - he is in heaven!
1 Tim 1:12-15

12 And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;

13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

14 And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
KJV
 
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TheIndianGirl

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Yes. I actually believe there are a lot of deathbed conversions as evident by the other prisoner next to Jesus on the Cross. It may not seem "fair" but I believe even the "worst of the worst" if they have a deathbed conversion will go to heaven.
 
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Jesus achieved forgiveness of all sin. Therefore IMO it is possible for a murderer to go to heaven.
 
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TheIndianGirl

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It is easy to be "good" when we have food, live in a safe neighborhood, have a roof over our heads, and are not being threatened. What if we grew up in the ghetto or favella in Brazil where we are inducted into a gang or forcibly inducted/tricked into MS-13? Some of these "bad" people did not really have an option. This is why parents do not want their kids to mix with a bad crowd.
 

Chester

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I clicked on the second of the links and it leads to :

Here is why God choose Israel only
and maps of the world picturing the male and female reproductive organs . . .

Really strange: I want nothing to do with this! Unless something is a mistake here . . .?
 

p_rehbein

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Can a murderer enter into heaven ?
Your question is either moot, or in error........

Why not ask "Can a repentant person who committed murder enter into Heaven?"

Reason being, "murderer" by itself as a description of a person suggests that they are unrepentant and not worthy to enter into eternal life.....
 

Going_Nowhere

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I always wonder....if serial killers like Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer believed in Jesus and repented before they died....would they have gone to heaven?
 
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Yes. I actually believe there are a lot of deathbed conversions as evident by the other prisoner next to Jesus on the Cross. It may not seem "fair" but I believe even the "worst of the worst" if they have a deathbed conversion will go to heaven.
What If they accidentally kill someone even after they have accepted JESUS will they go to heaven then?
 
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Jesus achieved forgiveness of all sin. Therefore IMO it is possible for a murderer to go to heaven.
Remember that GOD looks at the heart ,man looks at outward appearances so then there Is a difference between murder and killing.
 
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the 'key' here would be 'IF' one is walking in The Light'???
do we need to ask ourselves if we 'think/know' that we are walking in The Light',
would God put this situation before us???, and if we 'think that He would, what would we do???
here's something that ALL of US should consider, in order to feel that we are ONE in Christ, and
know for sure that we would be in His will considering the circumstances...???
 

Deuteronomy

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I always wonder....if serial killers like Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer believed in Jesus and repented before they died....would they have gone to heaven?
Hello Going_Nowhere, Bundy claimed to have been born again in prison, and Dr. James Dobson confirms this and believes that he was.

I'm not sure about Jeffrey Dahmer. Wasn't he murdered not long after being imprisoned?

Here's a short article about Ted Bundy if you are interested.


~Deut

Romans 4
5 To the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness.
 

Going_Nowhere

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Hello Going_Nowhere, Bundy claimed to have been born again in prison, and Dr. James Dobson confirms this and believes that he was.

I'm not sure about Jeffrey Dahmer. Wasn't he murdered not long after being imprisoned?

Here's a short article about Ted Bundy if you are interested.


~Deut

Romans 4
5 To the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness.
Here's a short video where JD talked about his religious views. Not sure if he was being honest here, but it is interesting.

 

Deuteronomy

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Here's a short video where JD talked about his religious views. Not sure if he was being honest here, but it is interesting.

WOW, it looks like I really got the wrong link in my last post. Here's the link that I meant post to the article discussing Ted Bundy. Sorry about that.

https://spcs.org.nz/dr-james-dobson...hours-before-he-is-executed-by-electrocution/

~Deut
p.s. - thanks for the link to the Dahmer interview. And you're correct .. in the cases of both men, actually .. they could have been dishonest, perhaps hoping that they could fool God as well as us :oops: Hopefully not, of course!
 

Blik

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I believe the key word is something that is avoided by the current church: repent. We know that even murder is forgiven by the Lord, it is cleaned from our souls so God even forgets it, but that is only if it is given to Christ. Murder couldn't be given to Christ and a person aimed to keep it at the same time. That is what repentance means.

I started a post about repentance, and many things are discussed in this post but repentance is not one of them.