Not By Works
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I believe it is good to have opposing views. Not views that take us to the point of wanting to hurt one another, but views that allows to sharpen swords in Faith. And i have learned that 100 people can read the same verse and never get the same interpretation. In that light, it's like reading the Bible for the first time and thinking you have a clue. Then the next time you read the same passage, some times you suddenly see it differently. It's all in growth. I would think for those still on milk, it must be discouraging discussing with those now eating meat. My only hope is that when I speak to someone who is still on milk. I treat them with kindness. Because until they are on meat, they cannot grasp what is being presented.
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John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Matthew 24:11-13
[11] And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. [12] And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. [13] But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
I love the Lord and I wish to endure to end to be saved as the Lord commanded.
Any doctrine that causes us to stray from this commandment should be dismissed.
If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Matthew 24:11-13
[11] And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. [12] And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. [13] But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
I love the Lord and I wish to endure to end to be saved as the Lord commanded.
Any doctrine that causes us to stray from this commandment should be dismissed.
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Not By Works:
I say we do not have to "endure" to the end for our salvation. I say we endure to the end as pertaining to the map God has laid out for us and the "race" He has planned for us in living this Christian life we are to live.
Works will Not save us but only the Grace of God.
I say we do not have to "endure" to the end for our salvation. I say we endure to the end as pertaining to the map God has laid out for us and the "race" He has planned for us in living this Christian life we are to live.
Works will Not save us but only the Grace of God.
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It’s more like some obey, and some find the sayings difficult to implement due to ego and love of their flesh. And the “interpretation” excuse gives them a way out to sooth their conscience while actually being in disobedience.
After all, this verse below is simple.
Luke 6:29
[29] And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also.
But how many “believers” love their cheeks and possessions more than Jesus?
After all, this verse below is simple.
Luke 6:29
[29] And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also.
But how many “believers” love their cheeks and possessions more than Jesus?
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The end of their faith in their individual lifetime.
2 Timothy 4:7-8
[7] I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: [8] Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.
The end of their faith in their individual lifetime.
2 Timothy 4:7-8
[7] I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: [8] Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.
Look at it this way. The knowledge you now understand today, there was a time in your growth where you did not see it how you do now. And when you were in the knowledge you had then, you thought you had something special. And it is special, because it came from God. And God knew you could only understand so much at that period of growth. And even with your knowledge you have today, there are many who are deeper than you. But it does not take away from your current knowledge because that current knowledge came from God. It's a cycle. It's not about who is right/wrong more than it is about what level of revelation you reside in currently.
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As an unbeliever, being told to turn the other cheek would have gotten a response like “are you crazy?!”
But as a true believer I say, “Amen! Let the Lord’s will be done!”
It’s about loving the Lord, verses not loving the Lord; Not your “understanding”.
Luke 14:26
[26] If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
But as a true believer I say, “Amen! Let the Lord’s will be done!”
It’s about loving the Lord, verses not loving the Lord; Not your “understanding”.
Luke 14:26
[26] If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
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