The Purpose of Speaking in Tongues
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"Tongues" an unlearned language, given to one by the Spirit, as one of the nine gifts. This language, is given to one personally so as to be edified while speaking it. It simply by -passes the intellect of that person and glorifies the personage of God and the Holy. In a church setting, it can be used to announce to the congregation, that what follows will be an interpretation, containing a correction, learning, or event for the church body in the common language.
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@wolfwint :
I should add that I (and 1 Corinthians 14:39) am talking about the kind of prophecy that was active when Paul wrote those words. Not the watered down, softened definition of "prophecy" that some have created to try to claim they keep that verse.
Don't pretend. Be honest in your answer.
Love in Jesus,
Kelby
I should add that I (and 1 Corinthians 14:39) am talking about the kind of prophecy that was active when Paul wrote those words. Not the watered down, softened definition of "prophecy" that some have created to try to claim they keep that verse.
Don't pretend. Be honest in your answer.
Love in Jesus,
Kelby
Well, I suppose we dont need the gift of prophecie in the way the believers got it during the time the scripture did not exist as a book we have today. Believers in Pauls days had no bible to open and read what God is revealing to them.
That means not that God is not uesing prophecie today, too.
But the almost we have to know, we can read in our bible.
That means not that God is not uesing prophecie today, too.
But the almost we have to know, we can read in our bible.
I'll say this for the benefit of all readers:
Prophesying was and is for real-time correction, real-time instructions, real-time encouragement, declaring things to come, etc, etc.
It is false teaching to say that prophesying was only for the creation of scripture. And that is provable BY the bible, which names many prophets, yet includes only a few of some of those prophets' words.
I'll add this for a bonus: The bible does not contain all scripture, nor does it claim to. It similarly doesn't contain the words of all true God-ordained prophets, nor does it claim to. The word of God is in heavens, in the earth, and cannot be contained in a single volume on earth. Not even the full truth of Jesus' walking on earth is contained in the bible, as says John 20:30 "And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:"
Prophecy was not and is not limited to producing of scripture! The other things prophecy does are still needed...and WILL BE needed until the day the church is perfected, as says Ephesians 4:11-13:
The bible (even if it WAS the perfect) is only manifested in the world so far. It is NOT yet fully manifested (complete, perfect) in the believers. WE ...(let me say that again)... WE still walk in PART, and wait, tarry, abide, continue, occupy, hope, etc until the perfect comes.
Love in Jesus,
Kelby
Prophesying was and is for real-time correction, real-time instructions, real-time encouragement, declaring things to come, etc, etc.
It is false teaching to say that prophesying was only for the creation of scripture. And that is provable BY the bible, which names many prophets, yet includes only a few of some of those prophets' words.
I'll add this for a bonus: The bible does not contain all scripture, nor does it claim to. It similarly doesn't contain the words of all true God-ordained prophets, nor does it claim to. The word of God is in heavens, in the earth, and cannot be contained in a single volume on earth. Not even the full truth of Jesus' walking on earth is contained in the bible, as says John 20:30 "And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:"
Prophecy was not and is not limited to producing of scripture! The other things prophecy does are still needed...and WILL BE needed until the day the church is perfected, as says Ephesians 4:11-13:
- For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: [13] Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
The bible (even if it WAS the perfect) is only manifested in the world so far. It is NOT yet fully manifested (complete, perfect) in the believers. WE ...(let me say that again)... WE still walk in PART, and wait, tarry, abide, continue, occupy, hope, etc until the perfect comes.
Love in Jesus,
Kelby
Right I am not coved this gift. As I said there it is today different then in the days of Paul.
Also if you read 1. Cor. 14,5 then you can also understand that Paul is sharing his View.
He says, he wishes that all speak in tongues.
But better as to speak in tongues, is to prophecie. This is a wish, he knew that it is not so in reality.
Also if you read 1. Cor. 14,5 then you can also understand that Paul is sharing his View.
He says, he wishes that all speak in tongues.
But better as to speak in tongues, is to prophecie. This is a wish, he knew that it is not so in reality.
Well, I can only partwise agree with you.
If a Prophet is someone who gives Gods word to people.
Then we have 1. to see that we have Gods word to read.
2. The the Spirit is the one who gives us the understanding about the word.
3. The believers in Pauls time had not the whole NT as scripture to read and where depend that God reveals the word through prophets.
4. Today you can say every preacher who shares the word is a prophet.
5. There is no biblical truth out of the bible. Means if there a revealations from prophets they are not NEW and not against what is already written down.
6. The prophecie has to be checked from the word of God.
7. It can be that God is giving prophecies in
the situation of a Person.
If a Prophet is someone who gives Gods word to people.
Then we have 1. to see that we have Gods word to read.
2. The the Spirit is the one who gives us the understanding about the word.
3. The believers in Pauls time had not the whole NT as scripture to read and where depend that God reveals the word through prophets.
4. Today you can say every preacher who shares the word is a prophet.
5. There is no biblical truth out of the bible. Means if there a revealations from prophets they are not NEW and not against what is already written down.
6. The prophecie has to be checked from the word of God.
7. It can be that God is giving prophecies in
the situation of a Person.
Praying, hoping a unseen God can hear us, is prophecy, "a work of faith", (believing).
Prophecy is the greater because it shows God is working through his living word in these bodies of death to both will and do his good pleasure .
To prophecy is to declare the will of a person. Its a law of God called the law of faith not a oral tradition of men making senseless sounds with claim to fill something which in the end which prove nothing. Nothing proves nothing .We have the witness of His word
Those who will have nothing to do with prophecy alone (sola scriptura) without the oral tradition of men are warned of seeking after unknown wonderments used for self edification Isaiah 28 the law is the foundation of the doctrine. It is repeated in 1 Corihtinans 14: 21-22
God Wants to Help His People
Isaiah 28: 9-12 The people say, “Who does he think he is trying to teach and explain his message to? Does he think we are babies who were at their mother’s breast only a very short time ago? He speaks to us as though we were babies:
“Saw lasaw saw lasaw
Qaw laqaw qaw laqaw
Ze’er sham ze’er sham.”
So God will use this strange way of talking, and he will use other languages to speak to these people. In the past he spoke to them and said, “Here is a resting place. Let those who are tired come and rest. This is the place of peace.”
But they would not listen to him. So the Lord’s words will be senseless sounds to them:
“Saw lasaw saw lasaw.
Qaw laqaw qaw laqaw.
Ze’er sham ze’er sham.”
When the people try to walk, they will fall backwards. They will be defeated, trapped, and captured.
Prophecy is the greater because it shows God is working through his living word in these bodies of death to both will and do his good pleasure .
To prophecy is to declare the will of a person. Its a law of God called the law of faith not a oral tradition of men making senseless sounds with claim to fill something which in the end which prove nothing. Nothing proves nothing .We have the witness of His word
Those who will have nothing to do with prophecy alone (sola scriptura) without the oral tradition of men are warned of seeking after unknown wonderments used for self edification Isaiah 28 the law is the foundation of the doctrine. It is repeated in 1 Corihtinans 14: 21-22
God Wants to Help His People
Isaiah 28: 9-12 The people say, “Who does he think he is trying to teach and explain his message to? Does he think we are babies who were at their mother’s breast only a very short time ago? He speaks to us as though we were babies:
“Saw lasaw saw lasaw
Qaw laqaw qaw laqaw
Ze’er sham ze’er sham.”
So God will use this strange way of talking, and he will use other languages to speak to these people. In the past he spoke to them and said, “Here is a resting place. Let those who are tired come and rest. This is the place of peace.”
But they would not listen to him. So the Lord’s words will be senseless sounds to them:
“Saw lasaw saw lasaw.
Qaw laqaw qaw laqaw.
Ze’er sham ze’er sham.”
When the people try to walk, they will fall backwards. They will be defeated, trapped, and captured.
