Not By Works

[jackrosie]

CONTEXT 100% dictates what is being discussed.....and by ignoring the context of this particular set of verses you are embellishing the word of God beyond this particular application by Jesus!

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No one's personal growth in the fruits of the Spirit should be used as measuring stick to measure another person.

Never said it was......

 

[jackrosie]

CONTEXT 100% dictates what is being discussed.....and by ignoring the context of this particular set of verses you are embellishing the word of God beyond this particular application by Jesus!

I disagree.

 

[dcontroversal]

I have quoted scripture...if you can’t figure it out..I can’t help you.

Quoting scripture and biblically applying scripture are two entirely different aspects of the coin!

 

[dcontroversal]

I disagree.

Ok......good luck!

 

[jackrosie]

Quoting scripture and biblically applying scripture are two entirely different aspects of the coin!

I meant

I posted scripture..they need to figure out what it means for themselves.

 

[dcontroversal]

Another helpful suggestion for anyone searching God's Truth.

Ready Book of Acts chapter 17 verse 11 Paul preaching to the Bereans.

Instead of it being called THE WORD OF GOD.....it has devolved into a book subject to personal whims and views.....when context can be ignored and chunked out the window we can make the bible say anything we want and support any view regardless of how false it is.....!

 

[oldethennew]

I was reading a few pages back - am I remiss in hearing that some really believe that they 'cannot' LOSE
their calling-reward IF they blaspheme The Holy Spirit=Reject Yeshua??? = AFTER they THINK that they
have truly received The Holy Spirit??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
someone-anyone????????????????????????????

 

[fredoheaven]

Amen ... our focus should always be on His Grace.

We are a New creation in Him.

The New nature is what we live out ....focus on Him and we are empowered to walk in the Spirit.

His Grace is sufficient.

His Grace is sufficient. Amen!

1 Cor. 15: 10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me

 

[dcontroversal]

I meant

I posted scripture..they need to figure out what it means for themselves.

Not about what it means to US.....but rather WHAT was God conveying by that truth in CONTEXT.

 

[jackrosie]

Instead of it being called THE WORD OF GOD.....it has devolved into a book subject to personal whims and views.....when context can be ignored and chunked out the window we can make the bible say anything we want and support any view regardless of how false it is.....!

I don’t believe..the Fruit of the Holy Spirit is a personal whim.
Posting on how important it is.

 

[jackrosie]

Not about what it means to US.....but rather WHAT was God conveying by that truth in CONTEXT.

Exactly....which they need to figure out themselves.

 

[dcontroversal]

I disagree.....totally......i waver because imo....I don’t agree with you...that’s why you try and confuse..but it won’t work on me.

If you beleieve that anyone one of us is trying to confuse you....you are mistaken!

 

[dcontroversal]

I don’t believe..the Fruit of the Holy Spirit is a personal whim.
Posting on how important it is.

The context was false teachers and the fruit they bear...not the the fruits of the Spirit!

 

[jackrosie]

If you beleieve that

The context was false teachers and the fruit they bear...not the the fruits of the Spirit![/


Meaning?

 

[dcontroversal]

I was reading a few pages back - am I remiss in hearing that some really believe that they 'cannot' LOSE
their calling-reward IF they blaspheme The Holy Spirit=Reject Yeshua??? = AFTER they THINK that they
have truly received The Holy Spirit??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
someone-anyone????????????????????????????

Blasphemy of the Spirit is denying the work of Christ and attributing his work to the power of the devil.....it is a state of unbelief.

 

[jackrosie]

I was reading a few pages back - am I remiss in hearing that some really believe that they 'cannot' LOSE
their calling-reward IF they blaspheme The Holy Spirit=Reject Yeshua??? = AFTER they THINK that they
have truly received The Holy Spirit??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
someone-anyone????????????????????????????

A true born again would never blaspheme....it would be unthinkable..wouldn’t enter their head.

 

[oldethennew]

I asked a simple question than NO ONE has answered, yet everyone desires to continue in their folly-debates -
how many who have been here for a very long time or a very short time, or a few minutes, or???,,,
is this beginning to sound like a revolving movie script to you??????????????????????
by the way, we're really addressing those who KNOW US and WE KNOW THEM, and then,
others who just naturally 'get things without having to go through the 'whole-sick-movie-thread-thing'???
just as an aside;
for those who GET THIS SITE;
our Heavenly Father Loves you very much and as the rushes & reeds blow in the wind,
He will bend and look at your face; but those who spoil, will be the spoil...

 

[BillG]

Excuse me...got to do with what?



I asked her a question....how long has she been born again.

Please Stop reading into something that isn’t there.

I wasnt reading anything into it.

I was asking a question just like you did.

Why does it matter when she was born again?

If you ask the question why did you do so?
It's a leading question

 

[star]

Instead of it being called THE WORD OF GOD.....it has devolved into a book subject to personal whims and views.....when context can be ignored and chunked out the window we can make the bible say anything we want and support any view regardless of how false it is.....!

Amen brother. We see that from the first of this thread down through the last of it.

 

[oldethennew]

Blasphemy of the Spirit is denying the work of Christ and attributing his work to the power of the devil.....it is a state of unbelief.

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yes, DC,
I was reading a few pages back and someone stated that it was possible to deny The Holy Spirit and STILL be 'called-elect'...