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jackrosie said:
Sorry,I disagree...as soon as one becomes Born Again......there is instant acknowledgement of what the Lord has given to us...His Love is manifest in a believers heart..You cannot but help share that Love that the Lord has placed in our heart.

Over time our fruits grow Jesus is seen in us more and more....people even recognise the kindness that is deep within us.....but don’t know it is Jesus shining out from our spirits.

That is my belief..never to be swayed...I stand firm on it.you shall know them by the fruit they bear....which is the fruit of Jesus.in a believers heart.....nothing to do with me.
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Disagree all you want....the scriptures and nature prove you to be incorrect.....back to your old self I see!
 
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Magenta said:
I am not one of those who say we have no choice... so I agree :)

In fact, I remember quite well, and will likely never forget, when the choice was put before me.

It turned my whole world upside down. A turning point, after which, nothing was the same.
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But you are not in the flesh if so be that the Spirit of God?????? Where is this?
 
jackrosie said:
I don’t agree sorry.......you have my belief on the fruits of the Spirit.....I am not judging anyone.
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Indirectly you are

Again twisting my words,to suit your own agenda..I am doing no such thing...I am grounded in truth.

But it’s not your truth...that I’m grounded in......now please leave me alone.

The above was your response to @Duskey
 
dcontroversal said:
Disagree all you want....the scriptures and nature prove you to be incorrect.....back to your old self I see!
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I am correct about the fruits of the Spirit ....we are to bear the fruits of the Spirit.

Back to my old ways....by not agreeing with some of your teaching....especially about the fruit of the spirit.
 
stonesoffire said:
But you are not in the flesh if so be that the Spirit of God?????? Where is this?
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Where is... what? I am sorry, Stones, but I do not understand your question.

Could you please clarify?

I am just now preparing to go out, so shall check back with you later :)
 
BillG said:
Indirectly you are

Again twisting my words,to suit your own agenda..I am doing no such thing...I am grounded in truth.

But it’s not your truth...that I’m grounded in......now please leave me alone.

The above was your response to @Duskey
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Again I have no idea what you are saying here....
Your words are very confusing to me.
 
Magenta said:
Where is... what? I am sorry, Stones, but I do not understand your question.

Could you please clarify?

I am just now preparing to go out, so shall check back with you later :)
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We aren’t in and out of the flesh or spirit. We are Spirit. Live in a body, and have a soul. It’s our soul that gives us headaches. 😉. And changes from glory to glory.
 
jackrosie said:
I am rooted to the truth in that area.

Sway or not..God allows it and it got me to his truth in that area..never to sway again.

Walking in faith and trust....you don’t get the truth without walking in faith also trust.
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God does not promote "swaying" and demands and fully expects one to be firmly rooted.....any evidence of swaying = immaturity.....and it was just a few short weeks ago that you were not even sure of salvation......be humble and take it to heart that Christian maturity and not being tossed about by EVERY wind of doctrine takes YEARS of intensive study, growth and maturity!
 
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jackrosie said:
And how do you know he isn’t?

I can’t relate to your belief..so really pointless in trying to get me to....I find your posts confusing.make no sense..only the scripture....but even then I don’t interpret it the way you do.

Surely you know what the fruits of the Spirit are?..it tells you in scripture?
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CONTEXT 100% dictates what is being discussed.....and by ignoring the context of this particular set of verses you are embellishing the word of God beyond this particular application by Jesus!
 
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dcontroversal said:
God does not promote "swaying" and demands and fully expects one to be firmly rooted.....any evidence of swaying = immaturity.....and it was just a few short weeks ago that you were not even sure of salvation......be humble and take it to heart that Christian maturity and not being tossed about by EVERY wind of doctrine takes YEARS of intensive study, growth and maturity!
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I am firmly rooted in my faith.

I have been confused at times in my mind as have you past or present.

My faith has never swayed...never.
 
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