Not By Works

[jackrosie]

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Who are these 'them' - v.15 provides the answer.

I have quoted scripture...if you can’t figure it out..I can’t help you.

 

[Duskey]

I am rooted to the truth in that area.

Sway or not..God allows it and it got me to his truth in that area..never to sway again.

Walking in faith and trust....you don’t get the truth without walking in faith also trust.

God allows what? Swaying? No He doesn’t.

 

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Fruits. Yes we are to produce good fruit for the Lord.

Another thing to watch out for is the "twisting" of the Word of God. Pray for and learn "discernment."

 

[fredoheaven]

I am saying you will know them by their fruits and their fruits are?

yet the question is who?

 

[jackrosie]

God allows what? Swaying? No He doesn’t.

God allows what? Swaying? No He doesn’t.

Don’t twist my words.

My faith does not waver I stand firm in my faith.

My head gets confused at times....just like your does.at times...past or present.

 

[jackrosie]

yet the question is who?

I have no idea what you are talking about.

You need to figure the scripture out for yourself....

 

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Another helpful suggestion for anyone searching God's Truth.

Ready Book of Acts chapter 17 verse 11 Paul preaching to the Bereans.

 

[jackrosie]

Fruits. Yes we are to produce good fruit for the Lord.

Another thing to watch out for is the "twisting" of the Word of God. Pray for and learn "discernment."[/


How did God teach you discernment?

How do you know you have it?

 

[fredoheaven]

I have quoted scripture...if you can’t figure it out..I can’t help you.

Umm, of course, you can't help me, but anyway, my suggestion only, need to use context to be sure we are giving the right sense. God bless

 

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The Holy Spirit teaches us discernment as we study the Word of God. Pray for discernment, wisdom. Put on the whole armor of God: Read Ephesians Chapter 6, 10 through 20.

"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places."

 

[Duskey]

Don’t twist my words.

My faith does not waver I stand firm in my faith.

My head gets confused at times....just like your does.at times...past or present.

Your faith doesn’t waver but your convictions to God’s Truth waver terribly. I encourage you to continue reading Scripture PRAYERFULLY, spend time on this chat site PRAYERFULLY and talk to @Oncefallen and seek his guidance regarding theological Truth. You have no interactions with him so you will hear him clearly.

 

[jackrosie]

Your faith doesn’t waver but your convictions to God’s Truth waver terribly. I encourage you to continue reading Scripture PRAYERFULLY, spend time on this chat site PRAYERFULLY and talk to @Oncefallen and seek his guidance regarding theological Truth. You have no interactions with him so you will hear him clearly.

I disagree.....totally......i waver because imo....I don’t agree with you...that’s why you try and confuse..but it won’t work on me.

 

[EleventhHour]

I already have posted the scripture if you don’t understand what it means..then you need to figure it out yourself.

As for attacking you..don’t even go there....I remember when I joined this site you attacked me fiercely....

That would also be incorrect I warned you about false teachers and those trying to persuade you.

There are several here in agreement that scripture pertains to false teachers... most of whom have studied scripture for many years.

They are looking out for your best interest.

 

[Duskey]

I disagree.....totally......i waver because imo....I don’t agree with you...that’s why you try and confuse..but it won’t work on me.

It has nothing to do with me. First you’re OSAS, then you’re against it, then you’re leaning towards calvinism, now you don’t know. That’s why I suggested you do everything prayerfully and talk with the moderator of this site, but you disagree. I’m shaking the dust off my feet.

 

[jackrosie]

It has nothing to do with me. First you’re OSAS, then you’re against it, then you’re leaning towards calvinism, now you don’t know. That’s why I suggested you do everything prayerfully and talk with the moderator of this site, but you disagree. I’m shaking the dust off my feet.

Don’t twist and turn and over exaggerating....I know exactly what I believe....show me where I said I was leaning towards Calvinism....you have completely distorted my post.

Don’t tell me what I believe......one thing for sure i certainly don’t believe a lot of what you teach.

The fruit of the Spirit is?

Again you post trying to confuse...once more I tell you it won’t work....now leave me alone.

 

[jackrosie]

That would also be incorrect I warned you about false teachers and those trying to persuade you.

There are several here in agreement that scripture pertains to false teachers... most of whom have studied scripture for many years.

They are looking out for your best interest.

I don’t agree..many study ....that does not make them born again...regardless of scriptural knowledge.

The fruits of the spirit are?

I will not be forced to believe someone..when it does not fit right in my spirit....so cut it out please.

Never have I seen you speak of the fruits of the Spirit ..that’s worrying.

 

[jackrosie]

Umm, of course, you can't help me, but anyway, my suggestion only, need to use context to be sure we are giving the right sense. God bless

Indeed..we all need to do that.

 

[EleventhHour]

Don’t twist and turn and over exaggerating....I know exactly what I believe....show me where I said I was leaning towards Calvinism....you have completely distorted my post.

Don’t tell me what I believe......one thing for sure i certainly don’t believe a lot of what you teach.

The fruit of the Spirit is?

Again you post trying to confuse...once more I tell you it won’t work....now leave me alone.

Please share what you believe, it would be good to make it known ...it will provide clarity.

 

[jackrosie]

Please share what you believe, it would be good to make it known ...it will provide clarity.

I have already shown what I believe.....which you well know........you are trying to manipulate and make me out to be wavering/ confused ..it won’t work....

I have eternal life...now give it a rest......

Now you share about the fruits of the Spirit?

 

[EleventhHour]

I don’t agree..many study ....that does not make them born again...regardless of scriptural knowledge.

The fruits of the spirit are?

I will not be forced to believe someone..when it does not fit right in my spirit....so cut it out please.

Never have I seen you speak of the fruits of the Spirit ..that’s worrying.

Again being personal.
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I speak about God' great love in every post because I defend OSAS which is biblical.

And I guess you missed this post...

https://christianchat.com/threads/not-by-works.146296/post-4308286