We, the elect, can save the world from Coronavirus

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Blik

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Coronavirus is a plague sent by the Lord, and scripture tells us a lot about plagues and what to do about them. When the Lord decided to destroy Sodom, Abraham pleaded for God not to do that. When Abraham asked the Lord if he would destroy all if there were righteous people found in the city the Lord replied in Genesis 18:32 “I will not destroy it on account of 10”.

In Matt. 24:22 we are told of the last days plagues: “but those days will be limited, because of the elect”.
 
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Coronavirus is a plague sent by the Lord, and scripture tells us a lot about plagues and what to do about them. When the Lord decided to destroy Sodom, Abraham pleaded for God not to do that. When Abraham asked the Lord if he would destroy all if there were righteous people found in the city the Lord replied in Genesis 18:32 “I will not destroy it on account of 10”.

In Matt. 24:22 we are told of the last days plagues: “but those days will be limited, because of the elect”.
Now, we are to wait for the rapture, where we will finally get the redemption of our earthly bodies.

Romans 8

18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.


26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
 
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Coronavirus is a plague sent by the Lord, and scripture tells us a lot about plagues and what to do about them. When the Lord decided to destroy Sodom, Abraham pleaded for God not to do that. When Abraham asked the Lord if he would destroy all if there were righteous people found in the city the Lord replied in Genesis 18:32 “I will not destroy it on account of 10”.

In Matt. 24:22 we are told of the last days plagues: “but those days will be limited, because of the elect”.
Matthew 24 seems to discuss a few different events marked by certain events.

Matthew 24:4-14 notes the beginning of birth pains. Marked by closure when the gospel is preached to all nations in verse 14.

Matthew 24:15-25 marks the great tribulation, with the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place.

Matthew 24:26-31 marks the return of the Son of Man and the rapture.

Where in the timeline do you place us?
 

Blik

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Matthew 24 seems to discuss a few different events marked by certain events.

Matthew 24:4-14 notes the beginning of birth pains. Marked by closure when the gospel is preached to all nations in verse 14.

Matthew 24:15-25 marks the great tribulation, with the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place.

Matthew 24:26-31 marks the return of the Son of Man and the rapture.

Where in the timeline do you place us?
I think that the Lord has a timeline we can't see past the darkness that our being human puts us in.

All the scholars told of the coming of the Messiah before Christ came as a man, and none got it right. I think the same thing is happening now. We are to have faith in our Lord and do what we know that we are told.
 
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Coronavirus is a plague sent by the Lord, and scripture tells us a lot about plagues and what to do about them. When the Lord decided to destroy Sodom, Abraham pleaded for God not to do that. When Abraham asked the Lord if he would destroy all if there were righteous people found in the city the Lord replied in Genesis 18:32 “I will not destroy it on account of 10”.

In Matt. 24:22 we are told of the last days plagues: “but those days will be limited, because of the elect”.
Jesus said that the tribulation, persecution of the saints will be limited, or no flesh would be saved, which is for three and one half years, and is the wrath of the devil by the man of sin upon the saints.

I do not believe this plague is from the Lord.

God has to end sin business on earth one day, so He is allowing the world 7 years to have their way, and cause all people that do not love Him to follow the New Age Christ, and when they do then He will end sin on earth.

We fight not against flesh and blood, but against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The devil will be able to work a little more in the world at the start of the 7 years period, and then he will be off his leash concerning the wicked, and deceive all people that do not love God.

Which the new age movement is the deception, and will pave the way to the beast kingdom in Revelation.

United Nations agenda 21 is a peace plan for the world, and it was put out in 1992, which 179 nations agreed to it.

But the nations were not ready to come together yet, but now they are ready to come together by a series of conflicts starting with the coronavirus.

Controlled conflict brings about controlled change, so they are using the coronavirus as a conflict as well as other pandemics to cause the economic collapse of all developed nations, and to cause them to take a vaccination that has RNA genetic coding, nanotechnology, nanochips, so they can begin tracking people, which this is now in the forefront of the vaccination race.

That is why the coronavirus is so devastating in America, or they are highly exaggerating it, and why there are protests, and America wants the people to fight over Right Wing and Left Wing, for America is going to go to a communistic government by conflicts planned one after the other.

And they will go to a second shut down to finish collapsing the economy, and will put everyone equal economically, and social status wise, for the centralized government can only be effective, and operate by a communistic government, for freedoms do not cause peace, but division, and will eventually be a totalitarian government.

All it takes is for the nations leaders to agree on evolution for this to happen, for the new age movement interprets the Bible, religions, and reality according to evolution, and people are still evolving to be greater and spiritual provided by the New Age Christ, and there is no personal God.

Since their beliefs are different than before things will change because of that.

So I do not believe the coronavirus is a plague from the Lord, but it is the world's doing to use that conflict to make a change, as well as other pandemics.

America wants the protests for equality, and against police brutality, for it is all part of the plan.

Republican and Democrat are working together to cover the beliefs of the people, and the nation to cover the beliefs of the world, and then bring them together.

Also by the 2 parties arguing with each other it causes the people to argue with each other which add to the chaos as part of the plan to go to a new form of government where there is no Republican or Democrat party, but they are one with no division, and everybody equal.

That is why the 2 parties are at each other's throats more, so the people will be at each other's throats more, and get violent with each other.
 

Blik

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I do not believe this plague is from the Lord.

God has to end sin business on earth one day, so He is allowing the world 7 years to have their way, and cause all people that do not love Him to follow the New Age Christ, and when they do then He will end sin on earth.

We fight not against flesh and blood, but against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The devil will be able to work a little more in the world at the start of the 7 years period, and then he will be off his leash concerning the wicked, and deceive all people that do not love God.

Which the new age movement is the deception, and will pave the way to the beast kingdom in Revelation.

United Nations agenda 21 is a peace plan for the world, and it was put out in 1992, which 179 nations agreed to it.

But the nations were not ready to come together yet, but now they are ready to come together by a series of conflicts starting with the coronavirus.

Controlled conflict brings about controlled change, so they are using the coronavirus as a conflict as well as other pandemics to cause the economic collapse of all developed nations, and to cause them to take a vaccination that has RNA genetic coding, nanotechnology, nanochips, so they can begin tracking people, which this is now in the forefront of the vaccination race.

That is why the coronavirus is so devastating in America, or they are highly exaggerating it, and why there are protests, and America wants the people to fight over Right Wing and Left Wing, for America is going to go to a communistic government by conflicts planned one after the other.

And they will go to a second shut down to finish collapsing the economy, and will put everyone equal economically, and social status wise, for the centralized government can only be effective, and operate by a communistic government, for freedoms do not cause peace, but division, and will eventually be a totalitarian government.

All it takes is for the nations leaders to agree on evolution for this to happen, for the new age movement interprets the Bible, religions, and reality according to evolution, and people are still evolving to be greater and spiritual provided by the New Age Christ, and there is no personal God.

Since their beliefs are different than before things will change because of that.

So I do not believe the coronavirus is a plague from the Lord, but it is the world's doing to use that conflict to make a change, as well as other pandemics.

America wants the protests for equality, and against police brutality, for it is all part of the plan.

Republican and Democrat are working together to cover the beliefs of the people, and the nation to cover the beliefs of the world, and then bring them together.

Also by the 2 parties arguing with each other it causes the people to argue with each other which add to the chaos as part of the plan to go to a new form of government where there is no Republican or Democrat party, but they are one with no division, and everybody equal.

That is why the 2 parties are at each other's throats more, so the people will be at each other's throats more, and get violent with each other.
This plague is not from our free will, it is from a virus mutation. The Lord gives us free will, but the Lord is in charge of our world and knows what is happening in it. These facts would add up to that God is in charge of our virus plague. It is even causing a collapse in our economy as predicted in God's word.

The last plague was also a virus in 1918 when millions died of the Spanish flu.
 
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This plague is not from our free will, it is from a virus mutation. The Lord gives us free will, but the Lord is in charge of our world and knows what is happening in it. These facts would add up to that God is in charge of our virus plague. It is even causing a collapse in our economy as predicted in God's word.

The last plague was also a virus in 1918 when millions died of the Spanish flu.
I know it is a virus, but they are using it on purpose to have a conflict instead of nipping it in the bud like they should, like America and their delayed response, although there are experts that understand viruses, and what they can do, but they are going to be relaxed about it, and not jump right on it, and say we were unprepared.

They want it to spread, or exaggerate it that it is spreading.

Like they do not know what it will do when they know beforehand what it will do, and people do not have an immunity to it, but they are using it for their advantage, and letting it ravage people on purpose.

Now America has the most cases, 10,000 cases a day in California, no herd immunity until vaccination, millions of people go hungry as pandemic destroys lives, along with America wants the protests, along with America wants the people to argue over Republican and Democrat and be violent, as well as other conflicts.

Because America wants to collapse on purpose, and go to communism, and it is all planned out.

It is one thing to have the coronavirus in your country and honestly try to beat it with the intention of caring about your people, and it is another to use the coronavirus to wreck havoc in your nation for the purpose of having a change, and not actually trying to beat it, or lying about the statistics.
 

Blik

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I know it is a virus, but they are using it on purpose to have a conflict instead of nipping it in the bud like they should, like America and their delayed response, although there are experts that understand viruses, and what they can do, but they are going to be relaxed about it, and not jump right on it, and say we were unprepared.

They want it to spread, or exaggerate it that it is spreading.

Like they do not know what it will do when they know beforehand what it will do, and people do not have an immunity to it, but they are using it for their advantage, and letting it ravage people on purpose.

Now America has the most cases, 10,000 cases a day in California, no herd immunity until vaccination, millions of people go hungry as pandemic destroys lives, along with America wants the protests, along with America wants the people to argue over Republican and Democrat and be violent, as well as other conflicts.

Because America wants to collapse on purpose, and go to communism, and it is all planned out.

It is one thing to have the coronavirus in your country and honestly try to beat it with the intention of caring about your people, and it is another to use the coronavirus to wreck havoc in your nation for the purpose of having a change, and not actually trying to beat it, or lying about the statistics.
All this may be true, and if it is then it is part of the plague. The cure for a plague is given in scripture. God uses man made cures at times, but the true cure always is in God's hands.

By being sure we are among the righteous that God would save the earth for we can have more effect on stopping the plague than any man made cure.
 
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... to cause them to take a vaccination that has RNA genetic coding, nanotechnology, nanochips, so they can begin tracking people, which this is now in the forefront of the vaccination race.
Would you just listen to yourself? :rolleyes:
 

Blain

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Some people are saying this virus is bible prophecy and they would be right but what some say is it is the plagues that is spoken of in revelation which it is not, I was not there or born when it happened but the black plague was way worse in it's death rates assuming the death rates broadcasted on the news is to be trusted.
Of course this is not to diminish the deaths of those who have passed but this virus is indeed bible prophecy the riots and the constant looting and chaos you see is bible prophecy.

We are at the brink of the entire book of revelation coming full blown open it will be like one wave five seconds after another.

This virus as bad as it is isn't anything compared to what is coming, I am talking corpses all over the place in such abundance that people don't bother trying to clear them from roads or anything because of the sheer number of it, this virus is not anything compared to what is coming but it is a wake up call.

At the very least this year people are looking into bible prophecy more they are connected the dots researching learning and showing their results including myself.

Before this virus I figured the rapture and the tribulation were still pretty far off but this virus got me looking into things and I am sure these events are going to happen sooner than people think and they will remember that it all began with this virus
 
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Coronavirus is a plague sent by the Lord,
The bible says, that Jesus healed ALL who were sick. So, why would He send a plague? Does He send tornados, hurricanes, and earthquakes?

1 Kings 19:11-13 King James Version (KJV)
11 And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the Lord. And, behold, the Lord passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the Lord; but the Lord was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the Lord was not in the earthquake:


12 And after the earthquake a fire; but the Lord was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.

13 And it was so, when Elijah heard it, that he wrapped his face in his mantle, and went out, and stood in the entering in of the cave. And, behold, there came a voice unto him, and said, What doest thou here, Elijah?




John 3:16-17
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
 

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The Lord not destroy Sodom if there are 10 good people

32 And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten's sake.


May be not enough Christian in the world, or may be somthing else we don't know

When The Lord destroy Sodom, He saved righteous/Lut. Know some Christian is dead of covib19. It may different case
 

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The bible says, that Jesus healed ALL who were sick. So, why would He send a plague? Does He send tornados, hurricanes, and earthquakes?

1 Kings 19:11-13 King James Version (KJV)
11 And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the Lord. And, behold, the Lord passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the Lord; but the Lord was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the Lord was not in the earthquake:


12 And after the earthquake a fire; but the Lord was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.

13 And it was so, when Elijah heard it, that he wrapped his face in his mantle, and went out, and stood in the entering in of the cave. And, behold, there came a voice unto him, and said, What doest thou here, Elijah?




John 3:16-17
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
He has sent plagues many times throughout the bible sodom was stricken with fire raininf grom the sky Egpyt was plagued with all kinds of horrible plagues and then there is the fact that he uses these like this for his glory like when Peter asked Jesus what sin a man with leprosy had comitted to deserve it but Jesus said it was for the glory of God and healed him.

This virus is not one we can fight against because it is not for us to fight it is for the ones in the world to fight. This virus is part of bible prophecy it may or may not have been sent by God but he is certainly using it.
 
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No offense, but shouldn't a pandemic result in at least a 50% ratio between those who unfortunately contract Covid to those who die from it? Worldwide, it's about a 2% ratio. Hard to believe this is a pandemic, let alone a plague from God. I do believe if this evolved Italian Version makes its visit worldwide there will be more deaths. Italy is known for its smokers. And the Wuhan Covid was proven the nicotine in daily smokers kept the Wuhan version from being able set up house and mutate. But the Italian Version seems like smokers are getting it this round. Time will tell.
 

Blik

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He has sent plagues many times throughout the bible sodom was stricken with fire raininf grom the sky Egpyt was plagued with all kinds of horrible plagues and then there is the fact that he uses these like this for his glory like when Peter asked Jesus what sin a man with leprosy had comitted to deserve it but Jesus said it was for the glory of God and healed him.

This virus is not one we can fight against because it is not for us to fight it is for the ones in the world to fight. This virus is part of bible prophecy it may or may not have been sent by God but he is certainly using it.
I don't agree with "it is not one we can fight against". I base this on the conversation God had with Abraham when Abraham asked the Lord to spare Sodom. The Lord would spare Sodom for the sake of ten righteous men. When we are righteous through Christ and our repentance the Lord is putting off the tribulation for our sakes.

The Lord gives us tremendous power when we obey Him.
 

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Matthew 24 seems to discuss a few different events marked by certain events.

Matthew 24:4-14 notes the beginning of birth pains. Marked by closure when the gospel is preached to all nations in verse 14.

Matthew 24:15-25 marks the great tribulation, with the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place.

Matthew 24:26-31 marks the return of the Son of Man and the rapture.

Where in the timeline do you place us?
I place us way after all that, except I don't believe the "rapture" as you believe it, will be a real thing ever.The funny thing is in that very chapter when His disciples ask Him when these things will happen, He tells them that their generation would not pass away before ALL those things took place. I put us past all that in the time where Jesus is seated at the right hand, already given all authority in heaven.......and on earth. Reigning until ALL enemies are put under His feet. BTW the Holy place is gone now, so it kind of has to have already happen. God's temple has fulfilled it's purpose and that age is over. IMO on this matter anyway.
 

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I don't agree with "it is not one we can fight against". I base this on the conversation God had with Abraham when Abraham asked the Lord to spare Sodom. The Lord would spare Sodom for the sake of ten righteous men. When we are righteous through Christ and our repentance the Lord is putting off the tribulation for our sakes.

The Lord gives us tremendous power when we obey Him.
Perhaps I should have said win against instead of fight against. We can pray for others and save them yes but worldwide this virus is in fact a major prophetic event, God saved who jacob asked but he also still burn the entire city in his wrath.

As for the tribulation being put off I would disagree I would even go so far as to say it is around the corner.

A few years ago I would have not believed it was close at all and perhaps there was a time when people could say the rapture or the tribulation was held off for our sakes which was in fact the excuse many made several years ago.

However now there is to much evidence to say otherwise, the end times are here and things are going to get messy quickly and once they do it is going to be a very slippery slop it is going to happen rapidly.
only in this year did I trult begin to think the rapture or the tribulation were anywhere near uis, at the beginning of this year alone he has given me far more visions dreams and spoken to my spirit about the things to come far more than he ever has in my time of being saved.

And many of the things he spoke to me many other believers around the world are saying the same thing it was actually very surprising that others heard and spoke the same things I did. People are waking up a stirring and awakening in the spirit because this time is truly at hand now.
 
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I place us way after all that, except I don't believe the "rapture" as you believe it, will be a real thing ever.The funny thing is in that very chapter when His disciples ask Him when these things will happen, He tells them that their generation would not pass away before ALL those things took place. I put us past all that in the time where Jesus is seated at the right hand, already given all authority in heaven.......and on earth. Reigning until ALL enemies are put under His feet. BTW the Holy place is gone now, so it kind of has to have already happen. God's temple has fulfilled it's purpose and that age is over. IMO on this matter anyway.

Also in that chapter, in verse 21-22, it says:

"21For at that time there will be great tribulation, unmatched from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again. 22If those days had not been cut short, nobody would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, those days will be cut short."

Tribulation unmatched since the beginning of the world is a prerequisite for that verse. If the great flood in the days of Noah wiped out the earth, save eight people, what do you propose the event was that was unmatched since the beginning of the world?
 

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Coronavirus is a plague sent by the Lord, and scripture tells us a lot about plagues and what to do about them. When the Lord decided to destroy Sodom, Abraham pleaded for God not to do that. When Abraham asked the Lord if he would destroy all if there were righteous people found in the city the Lord replied in Genesis 18:32 “I will not destroy it on account of 10”.

In Matt. 24:22 we are told of the last days plagues: “but those days will be limited, because of the elect”.

This is one example but there are others https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+16&version=KJV of who the wrath and plagues ect. are poured out on (those who have the mark,worship the image ect.)...

Seeing you see that the corona-virus is the plague/wrath being poured out on the earth at present then it would be impossible unless the beast that was, was not yet is has ascended out of the pit and his mark is here now and people are worshiping the image and buying and selling with his mark and have been for some time. Who is the beast,what is his mark,name ect.?