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Well, guess I don't know what your disagreement was about. And no I'm not scrolling back through hundreds of pages to find it so...so be it. But I did not misquote you. I gave you my opinion on the matter of fruits. No need to continue to be so defensive. I am not here to harm you...just saying....
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Well, guess I don't know what your disagreement was about. And no I'm not scrolling back through hundreds of pages to find it so...so be it. But I did not misquote you. I gave you my opinion on the matter of fruits. No need to continue to be so defensive. I am not here to harm you...just saying....
I am not being defensive...so please stop assuming you know me,because you don’t.
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I'm pretty sure the one said something to the effect of, you know, the whole license to sin thing that they love to pretend OSAS promotes, and how surprised some people will be to find out that you cannot live "as you please" when you are saved, but must make ongoing strenuous attempts to be sinless, as we also know some also promote they are... and not just in one post, either, but over a series of posts. That is why I asked him, specifically, if he was a T.U.L.I. kind of guy.
I am going to try to quit responding to you because for some reason you feel, asking a question or giving my opinion is some how attacking you...You keep throwing out little snide remarks to others for no apparent reason...This is really odd behavior and I leave you too it...for now, anyways.
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Amen?
Please tell me you do not believe this?
It does not empty the cross of the power.
Remember Jesus said he must be lifted up and as moses lifted up the seprent in the wilderness so must man be lifted up so that whoever believes.
The children of Israel had to chose in faith to look up at the serpent on the pole.. They looked up. Like you and I looked up to the cross in faith.
Did they Earn their salvation because they looked to the serpent?
No. No more than we can EARN salvation by looking to the cross[/QUOTE]
I was saved through Jesus sacrificing his life for me.....Christ saved me.i didn’t save myself....I cried out to Jesus.....if Jesus hadn’t died...there would be no salvation.....what a terrible thought.[/QUOTE]
Yep and that's true, we didn't save ourselves, we only look to the Saviour and saves us. Your looking to Christ only demontrate our faith believing to Christ. The object is Christ and Christ alone but without looking to Christ (not looking to yourselves) you will not be saved. Hope you gonna see the difference of what the Bible says as you are actually into a good ground but sometime get confused to a what man says. I pray God to bless you.
Please tell me you do not believe this?
It does not empty the cross of the power.
Remember Jesus said he must be lifted up and as moses lifted up the seprent in the wilderness so must man be lifted up so that whoever believes.
The children of Israel had to chose in faith to look up at the serpent on the pole.. They looked up. Like you and I looked up to the cross in faith.
Did they Earn their salvation because they looked to the serpent?
No. No more than we can EARN salvation by looking to the cross[/QUOTE]
I was saved through Jesus sacrificing his life for me.....Christ saved me.i didn’t save myself....I cried out to Jesus.....if Jesus hadn’t died...there would be no salvation.....what a terrible thought.[/QUOTE]
Yep and that's true, we didn't save ourselves, we only look to the Saviour and saves us. Your looking to Christ only demontrate our faith believing to Christ. The object is Christ and Christ alone but without looking to Christ (not looking to yourselves) you will not be saved. Hope you gonna see the difference of what the Bible says as you are actually into a good ground but sometime get confused to a what man says. I pray God to bless you.
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There is nothing special about them. Study unconditional election. Study 1 Corinthians 1:26-31.
If you study conditional election, that's where "special" comes in.
What does God being a God of justice have to do with election? If He were to exercise justice in saving, none would be saved. This is about God exercising grace and mercy, electing according to his counsel, will, and purpose. Ephesians 1:11 &c.
If you study conditional election, that's where "special" comes in.
What does God being a God of justice have to do with election? If He were to exercise justice in saving, none would be saved. This is about God exercising grace and mercy, electing according to his counsel, will, and purpose. Ephesians 1:11 &c.
see... telling people to study some Term, Terminolgy... it can sound Weird right off the bat and is, i don't know, probably from some kind of Dogma or Belief System??
God doesn't have dogmas or belief systems or want us to study 'This one' or ' That one'. just read the Bible and you'll get a sense of what God wants. like as in a number of books in the Old Testament. and a bunch of ones ones in the New.
and what is the sense you might ask, what is the sense?? it's Simple .... Be Good, Do Good, Repent, Follow the Good One, Obey the Good One, Obey God, Turn From Sin, Do What is Right, Just, Holy, Honorable &&&&&&&&&& You Will Be Blessed! You Will Be Known of God! You Will Be Saved! You Will Be Found! You Will Find Heaven!
Amen
The End
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I was saved through Jesus sacrificing his life for me.....Christ saved me.i didn’t save myself....I cried out to Jesus.....if Jesus hadn’t died...there would be no salvation.....what a terrible thought.[/QUOTE]
Yep and that's true, we didn't save ourselves, we only look to the Saviour and saves us. Your looking to Christ only demontrate our faith believing to Christ. The object is Christ and Christ alone but without looking to Christ (not looking to yourselves) you will not be saved. Hope you gonna see the difference of what the Bible says as you are actually into a good ground but sometime get confused to a what man says. I pray God to bless you.[/QUOTE]
I don’t understand what you are saying....but I will reread it.....sorry your post doesn’t make sense to me..no offence meant...
Yep and that's true, we didn't save ourselves, we only look to the Saviour and saves us. Your looking to Christ only demontrate our faith believing to Christ. The object is Christ and Christ alone but without looking to Christ (not looking to yourselves) you will not be saved. Hope you gonna see the difference of what the Bible says as you are actually into a good ground but sometime get confused to a what man says. I pray God to bless you.[/QUOTE]
I don’t understand what you are saying....but I will reread it.....sorry your post doesn’t make sense to me..no offence meant...[/QUOTE]
That would no problem at all to me. I am actually agreeing with your previous post and for sure I take the bible more than a man made theology. God bless
I don’t understand what you are saying....but I will reread it.....sorry your post doesn’t make sense to me..no offence meant...[/QUOTE]
That would no problem at all to me. I am actually agreeing with your previous post and for sure I take the bible more than a man made theology. God bless
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I don’t understand what you are saying....but I will reread it.....sorry your post doesn’t make sense to me..no offence meant...[/QUOTE]
That would no problem at all to me. I am actually agreeing with your previous post and for sure I take the bible more than a man made theology. God bless[/QUOTE]
I agree God’s word over man...Amen.....again I will reread your post...God Bless You Too.x
Guess, I'll try to answer my own question....
Limited Atonement?
Romans 5
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
And then we see in the very next verse.... that not all were made righteous only many....Guess there was some sort of choice in this matter seeing that the free gift was for all men.... some must not have accepted the free gift.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Limited Atonement?
Romans 5
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
And then we see in the very next verse.... that not all were made righteous only many....Guess there was some sort of choice in this matter seeing that the free gift was for all men.... some must not have accepted the free gift.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
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