This is not true, never was. Sorry my friend.
Seriously, Jesus Christ does The Father’s Will........WHO chooses The Bride for Jesus......
This is not true, never was. Sorry my friend.
Same old routine from him. I quoted @eternally-gratefull 's post ver batim and he is denying it, said I was not interpreting it correctly. And we are the liars? He also said no one believes faith is not a gift, but he does.
Seriously, Jesus Christ does The Father’s Will........WHO chooses The Bride for Jesus......![]()
We are not entering an arranged marriage. The proposal is from the groom to the bride. Jesus ask us for covenant, if we say yes we will be part of His bride.
EH there are times when people on this site are not acting very Christian-like, but there should not be a witch-hunt on one person. We are all guilty at times
The Bride HAS TO DRINK THE CUP THAT JESUS OFFERS HER.......The Cup to drink is the 7 Letters to the 7 churches.
Have you ever researched a Hebrew wedding?
The cup is our acceptance of the proposal.
Exactly! Those 7 Letters to the 7 Churches IS THE CUP that Jesus Christ is offering to His Bride.....if she accepts, she will drink The Cup.
Let the word of God explain the word of God
God bless
We are all guilty of this at times![]()
No Believer can make it through ALL 7 Letters to the 7 Churches without The Word AND The Holy Spirit.
No, The Holy Spirit explains The Word of God.
Without The Holy Spirit our understanding of The Word is FRUITLESS.
OK, but that is not all he said on that verse nor did it end there. And that short excerpt doesn't give the context of what he was getting at or what he believed, nor what the passage means. With all due respect leaving it at that is a bit of a misrepresentation. I listen to him daily by the way.
Amen!...I don’t understand why quite a few don’t get that...only the Holy Spirit can help us understand God’s word...my friend is an unbeliever..she hasn’t a clue what the bible means.
Holy Spirit leads me into all truth..but in his timing/strength.
Amen!...I don’t understand why quite a few don’t get that...only the Holy Spirit can help us understand God’s word...my friend is an unbeliever..she hasn’t a clue what the bible means.
Holy Spirit leads me into all truth..but in his timing/strength.
Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
Pro 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.
You need to know the word of God to test what the spirit is teaching you. If it is contrary to the word of God it is not from the Spirit but from a different spirit. Remember that our war is in the spirit not in the flesh. We need to have discernment and we can only have that when we know the word of God. On earth the final authority in truth is from the Word of God. The Spirit will never teach us anything that is contradicting scripture.
I think you misunderstand me.....the Holy Spirit leads us to scripture and talks to us through it.
The carnal mind cannot understand the word of God...as they are still in sin/darkness...they are alienated from God.
As was I once....I had never ever read the bible...I became born again without scripture....after becoming a child of God..he then led me to scripture and spoke to me through it and still does.
Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
Pro 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.
You need to know the word of God to test what the spirit is teaching you. If it is contrary to the word of God it is not from the Spirit but from a different spirit. Remember that our war is in the spirit not in the flesh. We need to have discernment and we can only have that when we know the word of God. On earth the final authority in truth is from the Word of God. The Spirit will never teach us anything that is contradicting scripture.
Good day sirIt is exactly what you said. Now, 'I may have interpreted what you said incorrectly' or 'you may not meant to say what you wrote, but it is a direct quote'.
Why are you accusing me of lying again. It is a direct quote. You said it, that is what quote means. This is the second time you have accused me of lying. Did you ever think it might be just a mistake on my part .... or a mistake on your part?
Hey, I think you are a well meaning guy, but words have meaning ... stop the false accusations against me for lying. I don't think you mean to say these things out of malice ... I think you are unable to articulate your thoughts at times and this causes confusion and that is exasperated by inferring people are lying.
... ANYWAYS, if I made an incorrect statement about something which I admit I do though I try not to, feel free to state your opinion ... but stop inferring I am purposely being untruthful.
Again, you take things too personal. People who disagree with you are lying or being disingenuous. Perhaps the problem is you say "A" and mean "B" and when someone reads your post and sees "A" and talks about "A" you think they are lying because you thought you were talking about "B". Or perhaps you posted about "A" and the person misinterpreted and thought you meant "B" and responds to "B". Hey, mistakes happen. Stop thinking the worst of people and assume they are lying. I assume you would never intentionally lie (I could be wrong, others don't agree) ... but I giving you the benefit of the doubt.
Aside: Most of my post was not directed to you ... I just used it as a jumping off point to discuss issues of "those who believe God elected them because they chose God". To tell you the truth, I am not sure where you stand as your posts have been confusing and I tired of trying to make sense of them.
Aside: Again, I think you are a good guy ... I apologize to a degree for this tough post ... but being accused of dishonestly rattled my cage.
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Eternally-gratefull said:
God said I will go and pay for sin, and these people who will come to faith and ask me to save them, I chose or elect to save.
I am looking at this quote again to see if I made some sort of comprehension mistake.
Hmmmmm...
I am almost certain you believe God died for everyone (note: if this is incorrect don't accuse me of lying, this is my best guess and you can correct me if I am wrong)
Hmmm ... God won't die for everyone ... oh, I give up .... your previous posts on the subject left me scratching my head so I won't be able to unscramble it now ... I apologize for accidentally saying something that you think was a lie even though I have no clue what you are talking about ... I will assume you don't just throw out the word 'liar' casually or in anger
You teach God chooses others because they chose him. You then teach he chose you because you chose him, making you special for doing so, which merited him choosing you.
That is merit, not grace.
Exactly! He teaches that God chose him because he chose God. Since God saw he would do that he teaches God elected him because of it. That is merit, not grace. Again, grace is unmerited favor.![]()
Nope, that's not what I believe.
Its hilarious you believe God chose you because you chose him, which is merit, not grace then accuse others of being special. Lol!