This is a quote from JD Greear (quoting Jen Wilkin):
“‘We ought to whisper about what the Bible whispers about, and we ought to shout about what it shouts about.’ And the Bible appears more to whisper when it comes to sexual sin compared to its shouts about materialism and religious pride.” (From a sermon on Romans 1:24-32, January 27, 2019 at The Summit Church)
My position is that if God says it once, he isn't whispering about it.
But, does the Bible whisper about sexual sin?
Has JD Greear read the book of Corinthians? Has he read Romans? Has he read the Bible?
Where did these "church leaders", seeking compromise with the world and to make themselves appealing to it, come from?
Romans 1:18-32 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.
24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Hebrews 13:4 4 Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.
Galatians 5:19-21 19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, 21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God
Colossians 3:5-7 5 Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. 6 On account of these the wrath of God is coming. 7 In these you too once walked, when you were living in them
(ESV Strong's)
I could spend a lot of time and bandwidth listing out the Scriptures that pertain to this topic.
Here are some questions:
1. What Scripture show us the enormity of sexual sin?
2. What has human history shown us about the devastation of sexual sin since the Fall?
3. Why do we have so many false shepherds like Greear that are minimizing the impact of Scripture and its warnings and commands?
4. Why are so many Christians practicing premarital or extramarital sex in the Church?
5. Why are churches opening up to the idea that it is acceptable to retain any sin as part of their Christian identity?
6. Does Scripture teach that God's moral law no longer applies, and that such sin is inevitable for a believer?
7. Is it hypocritical to identify immoral behavior?
8. How does church discipline (or the lack thereof) affect the level of sexual immorality within professing Christianity?
Note that I have not been guiltless even as a believer in these areas, but at no time did I deny that my activities were exceedingly sinful. Actually, I wish that some believer had taken me aside and corrected me on the issue strongly, perhaps even threatening me with disfellowshipment. But, that would have been pretty impossible since my activities were hidden from view during that time period.
What really bothers me, though, is that alleged Christian leaders are promoting a weak morality by their words. I suspect that some of them may be caught up in sexual immorality, and they are basically accusing anyone who might correct them as being a hypocrite.
“‘We ought to whisper about what the Bible whispers about, and we ought to shout about what it shouts about.’ And the Bible appears more to whisper when it comes to sexual sin compared to its shouts about materialism and religious pride.” (From a sermon on Romans 1:24-32, January 27, 2019 at The Summit Church)
My position is that if God says it once, he isn't whispering about it.
But, does the Bible whisper about sexual sin?
Has JD Greear read the book of Corinthians? Has he read Romans? Has he read the Bible?
Where did these "church leaders", seeking compromise with the world and to make themselves appealing to it, come from?
Romans 1:18-32 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.
24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Hebrews 13:4 4 Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.
Galatians 5:19-21 19 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, 21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God
Colossians 3:5-7 5 Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. 6 On account of these the wrath of God is coming. 7 In these you too once walked, when you were living in them
(ESV Strong's)
I could spend a lot of time and bandwidth listing out the Scriptures that pertain to this topic.
Here are some questions:
1. What Scripture show us the enormity of sexual sin?
2. What has human history shown us about the devastation of sexual sin since the Fall?
3. Why do we have so many false shepherds like Greear that are minimizing the impact of Scripture and its warnings and commands?
4. Why are so many Christians practicing premarital or extramarital sex in the Church?
5. Why are churches opening up to the idea that it is acceptable to retain any sin as part of their Christian identity?
6. Does Scripture teach that God's moral law no longer applies, and that such sin is inevitable for a believer?
7. Is it hypocritical to identify immoral behavior?
8. How does church discipline (or the lack thereof) affect the level of sexual immorality within professing Christianity?
Note that I have not been guiltless even as a believer in these areas, but at no time did I deny that my activities were exceedingly sinful. Actually, I wish that some believer had taken me aside and corrected me on the issue strongly, perhaps even threatening me with disfellowshipment. But, that would have been pretty impossible since my activities were hidden from view during that time period.
What really bothers me, though, is that alleged Christian leaders are promoting a weak morality by their words. I suspect that some of them may be caught up in sexual immorality, and they are basically accusing anyone who might correct them as being a hypocrite.
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