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Do you share in his sufferings? If so, how.
It says IF we share in his sufferings. That’s a conditional promise meaning we must DO something for our part. OSAS always skips the conditions required to receive the promise.
.This, by the way, is not what you said God said. You are changing your story.
It says IF we share in his sufferings. That’s a conditional promise meaning we must DO something for our part. OSAS always skips the conditions required to receive the promise.
.This, by the way, is not what you said God said. You are changing your story.
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it's our conscience that helps us believe - that we are sinners. it is something we have i guess - - that God created in us, a human thing you know? of course we were each given different dna by God though, and maybe that makes alot of the difference.
have you heard the quote:
Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.
Sir Winston Churchill
British politician (1874 - 1965)
they don't stop and listen very long, to think, to ponder, to decide to change their actions, or to at least wish to, to wish to remember it always -- whatever it was they stumbled over.
Yes there is DorothyMae.
Romans 8:16
The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.
Now if we are children,then we are heirs— heirs of God and co- heirs with Christ,if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.
I am a child of God....biblical......I had personal revelation from God...he then led me to this scripture.
So you deny this scripture do you,DorothyMae?
Did God not testify to your spirit that you were his child?
If he didn’t...then of course you would have difficulty understanding it.
But there it is above......for all to see....and it’s God’s Word!....now try and explain it away...good luck on that one![/QUOTE]
There is my scripture DorothyMae..now own it and apologise!
Or do you deny that scripture?
Lady...you are full of pride.....not once on this thread have I seen you apologise to anyone.
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I've heard certain people in the past interpret 1 John 1:9 in such a way to imply that we must "confess each sin that we commit as we commit them" (keep a specific inventory) as an "additional requirement" to "remain cleansed" and if we forget a sin we are toast! 
Good luck remembering and reciting every single sin!
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I've heard certain people in the past interpret 1 John 1:9 in such a way to imply that we must "confess each sin that we commit as we commit them" (keep a specific inventory) as an "additional requirement" to "remain cleansed" and if we forget a sin we are toast! Good luck remembering and reciting every single sin!
Good luck remembering and reciting every single sin!
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I've heard certain people in the past interpret 1 John 1:9 in such a way to imply that we must "confess each sin that we commit as we commit them" (keep a specific inventory) as an "additional requirement" to "remain cleansed" and if we forget a sin we are toast! Good luck remembering and reciting every single sin!
Good luck remembering and reciting every single sin!
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So you could not show one instance of faith is forced on someone against their will. Of course I understand because you can’t
As for faith being free will. I do not have to show verses that say it word for word. We chose to trust or not trust people every day it is not an unknown subject. Even in the OT are not the words (chose this day who you will follow) spoken? Do we believe outside our will if we do is this not forced belief and as such how can that be faith at all
Again I ask. Show one instance where anyone chose to trust anyone else outside of free will.
As for faith being free will. I do not have to show verses that say it word for word. We chose to trust or not trust people every day it is not an unknown subject. Even in the OT are not the words (chose this day who you will follow) spoken? Do we believe outside our will if we do is this not forced belief and as such how can that be faith at all
Again I ask. Show one instance where anyone chose to trust anyone else outside of free will.
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