Not By Works

[jackrosie]

See he is not a true Calvinist. He thinks salvation can be lost

What is he then...if he believes he can lose his salvation?

 

[EleventhHour]

Is ole preachee for Calvin mouthing again? I cannot see as his drivel is on ignore. But as all with eyes can see, he peddles the dogma of an ex Catholic and is incessantly divisive with his holier than thou attitude.

Pretty much stated that salvation can be lost... just as you summarized in post a while ago.

Holier than thou indeed!!!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

And was there any mention of repentance in that post you responded to? Is there a limit to God' forgiveness?

And the poster @preacher4truth slandered @Lightskin in that post who was a frequent visitor to this thread.
Someone who choose to admit his shortcomings on another thread and now he uses it against the person.
Is that not the epitome of self-righteousness!!

And the poster also slandered the OP of this thread @dcontroversal ... go back and read and you will see someone slinging mud, why because some people dare to stand up to the false tenets of Calvinism.

Yes, the poster you responded to walks in the "rarefied atmosphere" of being a member of the elite who will persevere and they are excused in all the little sins they commit each day.

Smh. But true

 

[eternally-gratefull]

What is he then...if he believes he can lose his salvation?

A person who believes in salvation by works, yet will deny it and attack anyone who disagrees with him.

 

[BillG]

And was there any mention of repentance in that post you responded to? Is there a limit to God' forgiveness?

And the poster @preacher4truth slandered @Lightskin in that post who was a frequent visitor to this thread.
Someone who choose to admit his shortcomings on another thread and now he uses it against the person.
Is that not the epitome of self-righteousness!!

And the poster also slandered the OP of this thread @dcontroversal ... go back and read and you will see someone slinging mud, why because some people dare to stand up to the false tenets of Calvinism.

Yes, the poster you responded to walks in the "rarefied atmosphere" of being a member of the elite who will persevere and they are excused in all the little sins they commit each day.

Rather than go at me I suggest you direct me.

It was obvious that I did not know as to who/what he was referring to.

 

[jackrosie]

You username comes into question if you challenge the truth sir.

I make OSAS and its followers liars by the word of truth.

This is not arrogance, it this:

2 Timothy 4:2
[2] Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

I sure hope I misinterpreted your post. Or else get in line with my adversaries.

If you don’t believe that a born again goes to Heaven when they die....then that makes God a liar....we all know that isn’t true.

So as a born again.....that’s iff you are..why do you doubt?

 

[EleventhHour]

Rather than go at me I suggest you direct me.

It was obvious that I did not know as to who/what he was referring to.

It was not at all about you, but the fact of how he used someone's admission of sin in such a callous manner against them upset me.

I am sorry.. really not about you at all.

 

[dcontroversal]

Thanks for the compliment!

1 Corinthians 3:18
[18] Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.

Dense does not equal wise.....and wise you are not!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

If you don’t believe that a born again goes to Heaven when they die....then that makes God a liar....we all know that isn’t true.

So as a born again.....that’s iff you are..why do you doubt?

Because it’s all about him and his power not God.

 

[stonesoffire]

2 Peter 2:

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

This verse clarifies to God the Angels did SIN!

You‘re right. It does.

 

[jackrosie]

A person who believes in salvation by works, yet will deny it and attack anyone who disagrees with him.

Remember I thought that as a new babe...I burnt myself thinking I had to work in my own strength,to keep my salvation.

So it sounds like he is being deceived?.....or maybe he still hasn’t worked out his own salvation?

 

[dcontroversal]

Look up the word lead......you are as dense as lead if you think for one second you can compare yourself to Paul....as a matter of fact....look up antithesis.....because what you spew is the antithesis of what Paul taught.....!!

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Ooooooo the world stops turning and comes to an end.....I got a SPELL CHECK FROM THE GRAMMAR POLICIA.....even though I was on a different phone, small keys, getting up 450 AM, half asleep, working 10 to 12 hours a day in Australia, in a different time zone and sleep schedule and refuse to use predictive text.......Katie Bar the Door, I fixed the 2 letters that I missed in my haste to post............hilarious!

 

[jackrosie]

Because it’s all about him and his power not God.

Yes...I understand what you say...but wouldn’t have as a new babe....

 

[dcontroversal]

Thanks, I did not agree with his assessment of the KJV, but I haven’t studied the matter deep enough to respond to him.

That last line and on most subjects with you, goes without saying......!!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Remember I thought that as a new babe...I burnt myself thinking I had to work in my own strength,to keep my salvation.

So it sounds like he is being deceived?.....or maybe he still hasn’t worked out his own salvation?

Oh he thinks he is ok

He also does not think he is earning his salvation. But you just heard him say if a brother struggles with a sin. He As much as has not worked hard enough and can’t be saved

 

[Fastfredy0]

they also believe their work achieved salvation, i.e. that God saved them because he saw they would choose.

That's merited favor (conditional salvation) not grace (unmerited favor).

Agreed.

Aside: I often wonder why some of the 'libertarian free willers' are OSAS. I would like them to explain why God takes away their freedom to "believe salvificly or not believe salvificly". I wonder how long they have to believe salvificly before God "locks them in", so to speak; perhaps an altar call and they are locked in ... perhaps a 24 hour trial period where they are free to change their mind. Hmmm ....
I wonder if I could be wrong (I often am) ... when I get to heaven perhaps God will tell me the 'free willers' were right ... that I, not God, gets the credit for my faith as I had a tad more righteousness than the guy who didn't believe. That would be nice I suppose.

 

[EleventhHour]

w
Ooooooo the world stops turning and comes to an end.....I got a SPELL CHECK FROM THE GRAMMAR POLICIA.....even though I was on a different phone, small keys, getting up 450 AM, half asleep, working 10 to 12 hours a day in Australia, in a different time zone and sleep schedule and refuse to use predictive text.......Katie Bar the Door, I fixed the 2 letters that I missed in my haste to post............hilarious!

He is SDA.. remember they are law keepers ..

 

[biker]

There is a difference between looking at what Christ did as being a GIFT, and as being OWED once you Believe.

There are going to be many who have deceived themselves over the issue of Grace.

How do I know?

Revelations gives us an example on Judgement Day of those who thought they were Believers and did things in Christ Name like preach/teach/miracles and Christ ultimately states to them, "I never knew YOU, Depart from ME!"

 

[dcontroversal]

Oh he thinks he is ok

He also does not think he is earning his salvation. But you just heard him say if a brother struggles with a sin. He As much as has not worked hard enough and can’t be saved

Which religionist is at the heart of this post.....The sinless perfectionist or the Calvin Klein peddler.....

 

[jackrosie]

I just thank God,that I have my security in him,I am saved/born again..and will “DEFINITELY “ be joining my Father in Heaven......

All thanks to what our Lord Jesus did on that cross!!.....no greater Love than that.....