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DorothyMae said:
That you are a 2Tim 3:6 woman.
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This is what God testified to your spirit about me.

They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak willed woman,who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires

Is that correct DorothyMae?
 
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DorothyMae

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VCO said:
OSAS Believers KNOW HIM, intimately, personally, and HE IS IN US AND WE ARE IN JESUS CHRIST's SPIRITUAL BODY, and all of that is LITERALLY, not symbolism. AND you only CLAIM to KNOW what OSAS IS REALLY ABOUT, when we see how little you about OSAS TRUE BELIEFS.
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If you OSAS believers are content with their doctrine telling them they know God intimately then I have nothing to say to them. I’m speaking to those who desire a deeper walk with God who want to understand why God does what He does.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Matthew 24:13

In context.... he who during the tribulation endures to the end of that time period will be physically saved.

The word "saved" needs to understood in context always.
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i remember you telling me that absurd view. Essentially, if you don’t die during the Tribulation you won’t die at the end either.
 
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DorothyMae said:
If you OSAS believers are content with their doctrine telling them they know God intimately then I have nothing to say to them. I’m speaking to those who desire a deeper walk with God who want to understand why God does what He does.
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You will never understand why God does what he does.

He doesn’t answer to you....you silly woman....who on earth do you think you are?

His ways are not your ways.
His thoughts are not your thoughts.

I can’t believe you posted that!

Trying to be on the same level as God....how ridiculous
You definitely have no understanding of a born again.....you are struggling and it shows.
 
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DorothyMae

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jackrosie said:
This is what God testified to your spirit about me.

They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak willed woman,who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires

Is that correct DorothyMae?
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Pretty suspect that suddenly you got the same verse. Well at least you opened your Bible this time and didn’t insist God spoke to you disconnected from the Word.
 
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DorothyMae

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jackrosie said:
You will never understand why God does what he does.

He doesn’t answer to you....you silly woman....who on earth do you think you are?

His ways are not your ways.
His thoughts are not your thoughts.

I can’t believe you posted that!

You definitely have no understanding of a born again.....you are struggling and it shows.
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I understand why God does what He does. I’m not the only one who does.
 
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DorothyMae said:
I understand why God does what He does.
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Can you share that with us?

Your on the same wavelength as God?

Seriously...?


I can honestly say I have no idea why God has done what he has done in my life...but I trust him and walk in faith...he knows what I need and what is best for me.

I don’t even question him over it either.
 
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jackrosie said:
Can you share that with us?

Your on the same wavelength as God?

Seriously...?
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Do a study on the knowledge of God first so you have a basis by which to know the truth. You tend to weigh personal revelation over the Bible which prevents real understanding. A study would be important
 
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DorothyMae said:
Pretty suspect that suddenly you got the same verse. Well at least you opened your Bible this time and didn’t insist God spoke to you disconnected from the Word.
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Haaa...that is where you fall short...you don’t understand what it means for a child of God to have that intimate relationship with him.

.Adam and Eve had it with God,before they sinned.....did you know that?
Or are you going to deny that as well.
They knew God personally.
 
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DorothyMae said:
Do a study on the knowledge of God first so you have a basis by which to know the truth. You tend to weigh personal revelation over the Bible which prevents real understanding. A study would be important
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I asked you a question..please answer it?

Stop twisting everything.........explain?

We have a personal relationship with God.....you obviously don’t understand it......
 
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DorothyMae,you are disconnected from having a relationship with God?

Why is that?

Are you saying his children don’t have a relationship with him?
 
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DorothyMae

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jackrosie said:
I asked you a question..please answer it?

Stop twisting everything.........explain?

We have a personal relationship with God.....you obviously don’t understand it......
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There are children in the faith and there are mature adults in the faith. Both have personal relationships with God but the difference in intimacy and understanding is astounding.
 
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jackrosie said:
So when the Jews during the 4 gospels heard Jesus telling them to endure to the end, do you think they would understand it as how you are stating it, that "Enduring to the end for me means.....we are already saved once we become born again....the reason we will endure to the end is...because we have the power of the Holy Spirit in us,keeping us enduring to the end."

Do you really think that understanding would be in their minds?
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Did you read my post above.....,JESUS......when JESUS SPOKE TO THEM!

Whose in JESUS....?..........GOD!........understandee![/QUOTE]

That does not address what I was asking you
 
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jackrosie said:
I asked you a question..please answer it?

Stop twisting everything.........explain?

We have a personal relationship with God.....you obviously don’t understand it......
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You cannot expect me to share treasures with a woman who laughs at what I write.
 
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DorothyMae

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jackrosie said:
Haaa...that is where you fall short...you don’t understand what it means for a child of God to have that intimate relationship with him.

.Adam and Eve had it with God,before they sinned.....did you know that?
Or are you going to deny that as well.
They knew God personally.
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I didn’t deny anyone in particular has a relationship with God. You accuse me falsely.
 
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During my reading of scripture today these words in the second letter to the Thessalonians immediately reminded me of the absurdity of Once Saved Always Saved.

2 Thessalonians 1:4-5
[4] So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure: [5] Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer

What is striking about the above scripture is that it ties in perfectly with these scriptures:

Matthew 24:13
[13] But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Ephesians 4:1
[1] I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called

2 Thessalonians 1:11
[11] Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling

Why would Paul have to pray for them to be counted worthy if their worthiness is guaranteed and secure?

Matthew 20:16
[16] ...for many be called, but few chosen.
 
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DorothyMae said:
If you OSAS believers are content with their doctrine telling them they know God intimately then I have nothing to say to them. I’m speaking to those who desire a deeper walk with God who want to understand why God does what He does.
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If you nothing to say to them why do you come back here everyday?

Unless you are in agreement with God on His truth you cannot have a deeper walk with Him, and since you have yet to agree with the Gospel all you have to offer is religious dogma.
 
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DorothyMae said:
i remember you telling me that absurd view. Essentially, if you don’t die during the Tribulation you won’t die at the end either.
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You deny context.

You remind me of flat-earthers ..... despite clear scientific evidence
that proves otherwise they cling to nonsense.
 
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Micaiah-imla said:
During my reading of scripture today these words in the second letter to the Thessalonians immediately reminded me of the absurdity of Once Saved Always Saved.

2 Thessalonians 1:4-5
[4] So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure: [5] Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer

What is striking about the above scripture is that it ties in perfectly with these scriptures:

Matthew 24:13
[13] But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Ephesians 4:1
[1] I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called

2 Thessalonians 1:11
[11] Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling

Why would Paul have to pray for them to be counted worthy if their worthiness is guaranteed and secure?

Matthew 20:16
[16] ...for many be called, but few chosen.
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No context equals...... no correct, scriptural, spiritual understanding.
 
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