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EleventhHour
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I did not state that at all, if you are going to twist my words best we do not discuss..... sad face.
For sin having “no dominion,” there’s a lot of wrong (sinful) choices being made. Must be difficult to write that one (glorious) state exists when the reality is different.
He took away their past sins.
Not the sins committed wilfully after gaining knowledge of the truth through the gospel.
This is what God thinks of those people who sin presumptuously:
Numbers 15:30-31
[30] But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously, whether he be born in the land, or a stranger, the same reproacheth the Lord; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people. [31] Because he hath despised the word of the Lord, and hath broken his commandment, that soul shall utterly be cut off; his iniquity shall be upon him.
Taking a couple of verses from the OT and applying them to the Body of Christ is absolutely wrong. A few verses later the meaning becomes clear...
You have observed the statutes of Omri
and all the practices of Ahab’s house;
you have followed their traditions.
Therefore I will give you over to ruin
and your people to derision;
you will bear the scorn of the nations.
It is obvious that Micah was writing about Jews who have gone away from God to pagan beliefs. The passage has nothing to do with Christians.
I know you didn’t say that calm down.....I asked a question...maybe EG can answer it......you need a break my dear....you are seeing something that isn’t there.
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eternally-gratefull
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You will face the music of your pride one day
Stop judging others. And stop excusing your sin!
What is it that you don't understand about "no dominion"? It means that, although Christians are susceptible to sin it will not control us.
This is such an ignorant statement that it warrants no response.
The scripture writers themselves quote the OT and apply them to Christians frequently.
All my sin was far future when He atoned for it.
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EleventhHour
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I don't need a break... I am perfectly fine.
We are to draw near to the throne of grace.
Hebrews 4:15-16 New International Version (NIV)
15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet he did not sin. 16 Let us then approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.
Romans 8:1-2
There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.
I hope everyone realizes this wonderful passage does NOT say 'there is no more condemnation for those who never sin'
.... it says something far, far greater. Foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us, the power of God!
There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.
I hope everyone realizes this wonderful passage does NOT say 'there is no more condemnation for those who never sin'
.... it says something far, far greater. Foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us, the power of God!
You left out the following (bolded and underlined):
Romans 8:1
[1] There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
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EleventhHour
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Thank you for your concern.
My posts are fine.
And I follow the leading of the Holy Spirit... and if @dcontroversal wants me off the thread I am sure he will let me know.
Is that why you sin so often? I have not hung eternity on theology, but on the Person and promises of Jesus Christ.
How is it faulty?
It is an impeccably true statement.
And have you not read, all the Father gives to Him will come to Him, and He will never cast them out? Do you think the Father only gave people who were alive in the 1st century?
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EleventhHour
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I was not biting your head off LOL ..... if it had been framed as "how do we resist temptation" I would have recognized it more as a question.
Anyway sorry for the misunderstanding.