Not By Works
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Do you think Jesus was not a thinking, reasoning person as well as guided by the Holy Spirit?
I did not state that we resist the Holy Spirit, nor that the Holy Spirit does not reveal, but we need to reason as well or we can just as easily fall into error.
"The written word" encompasses >>>>both the spiritual and reason.
The Book of Romans being a prime example.
I did not state that we resist the Holy Spirit, nor that the Holy Spirit does not reveal, but we need to reason as well or we can just as easily fall into error.
"The written word" encompasses >>>>both the spiritual and reason.
The Book of Romans being a prime example.
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I hear these scriptures a lot from various ministries and wonder how you interpret EH?
John 5:30
I can do nothing by Myself; I judge only as I hear. And My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
John 6:38
For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me.
John 8:28
So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing on My own, but speak exactly what the Father has taught Me.
John 12:49
I have not spoken on My own, but the Father who sent Me has commanded Me what to say and how to say it.
John 12:50
And I know that His command leads to eternal life. So I speak exactly what the Father has told Me to say."
John 14:10
Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me? The words I say to you, I do not speak on My own. Instead, it is the Father dwelling in Me, performing His works.
John 5:30
I can do nothing by Myself; I judge only as I hear. And My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
John 6:38
For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me.
John 8:28
So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing on My own, but speak exactly what the Father has taught Me.
John 12:49
I have not spoken on My own, but the Father who sent Me has commanded Me what to say and how to say it.
John 12:50
And I know that His command leads to eternal life. So I speak exactly what the Father has told Me to say."
John 14:10
Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me? The words I say to you, I do not speak on My own. Instead, it is the Father dwelling in Me, performing His works.
@EleventhHour - you are a very dear and precious sister in Christ to me, I know that you love God with all your heart, mind soul and body....Like you, I too am ROCK SOLID IN FAITH IN CHRIST ALONE.
It's just time for you to come up higher. There's so much more God wants you and all that love Him to know and understand.
Here's a challenge......test the water......see if there's more for you....
Everyone knows Psalm 23, I'm sure you're very acquainted with it and intellectually know it very well, probably even have it memorized........
Go back to Psalm 23 and open your heart and your mind in all humility of spirit and diligently seeking Truth and ask the Holy Spirit to feed you secret hidden manna from the scriptures of Psalm 23......see and hear what the Spirit is saying to you specifically in Psalm 23.........
Don't be in a hurry, just sit with Jesus (The Word) and the Holy Spirit enjoying God's love for you and ask questions about the Psalm and listen.......
It's just time for you to come up higher. There's so much more God wants you and all that love Him to know and understand.
Here's a challenge......test the water......see if there's more for you....
Everyone knows Psalm 23, I'm sure you're very acquainted with it and intellectually know it very well, probably even have it memorized........
Go back to Psalm 23 and open your heart and your mind in all humility of spirit and diligently seeking Truth and ask the Holy Spirit to feed you secret hidden manna from the scriptures of Psalm 23......see and hear what the Spirit is saying to you specifically in Psalm 23.........
Don't be in a hurry, just sit with Jesus (The Word) and the Holy Spirit enjoying God's love for you and ask questions about the Psalm and listen.......
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THIS IS SHOUTING:
THEN WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING OSAS UP WHEN THIS THREAD IS "NOT BY WORKS"?
I repeat, I refuse to go by FACE BOOK rules, I am OLD SCHOOL, born and raised.
From WIKEPEDIA:
In typography, all caps (short for "all capitals") refers to text or a font in which all letters are capital letters, for example: TEXT IN ALL CAPS. "All caps" may be used for emphasis (for a word or phrase). They are commonly seen in legal documents, the titles on book covers, in advertisements and in newspaper headlines.
Like I said, Do Not expect me to bow down to FACE BOOK RULES, Emphasis was all it meant when I was in High School in the Mid-60's.
THEN WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING OSAS UP WHEN THIS THREAD IS "NOT BY WORKS"?
I repeat, I refuse to go by FACE BOOK rules, I am OLD SCHOOL, born and raised.
From WIKEPEDIA:
In typography, all caps (short for "all capitals") refers to text or a font in which all letters are capital letters, for example: TEXT IN ALL CAPS. "All caps" may be used for emphasis (for a word or phrase). They are commonly seen in legal documents, the titles on book covers, in advertisements and in newspaper headlines.
Like I said, Do Not expect me to bow down to FACE BOOK RULES, Emphasis was all it meant when I was in High School in the Mid-60's.
I don’t use Facebook and have no idea of their rules. What you wrote shows deep anger and shouting louder although you were demonstrating. I was in high school in the 70s and kursive was used for emphasis which is what I recall reading in books by known authors. They switched the font, not the caps.
I know more than those believers about it because I look at the fruit whereas those adherents only see the individual scripture they like (ignoring the others) and church startements. Original and thoughts are rare.
For example, the idea that Jesus taught that a man CAN FALL AWAY or walk away not being snatched but leaving on his own doesn’t occur to them. No one can snatch FROM THE OUTSIDE OF YOU but you can still CHOOSE TO LEAVE is not tolerated.
For example, the idea that Jesus taught that a man CAN FALL AWAY or walk away not being snatched but leaving on his own doesn’t occur to them. No one can snatch FROM THE OUTSIDE OF YOU but you can still CHOOSE TO LEAVE is not tolerated.
Is that all you guys can think of such that this is the question you ask? This is why I posted as I did initially. Such repeated cry’s discouraging doing good lest one be “working for salvation” and the world misses out on blessings God would do through His people. My Bible tells me to encourage others to do good works not warn them against doing them as they are meaningless to God as it concerns salvation and salvation, for the OSAS believer is all there is.
Jackrosie, He knows all about everyone so that makes no difference in our eternal destiny. He never promises his children cannot leave. The prodigal son left and the father DID NOT go after him. The 70 left Jesus and Jesus did not go after them. Paul listed people who had left and offered no hope that God was holding them tight.
I know OSAS theology well and you won’t find those promises. He won’t reject you but you can resist and reject him. And changing your mind is also possible. I know you don’t believe this.
I know OSAS theology well and you won’t find those promises. He won’t reject you but you can resist and reject him. And changing your mind is also possible. I know you don’t believe this.
God never promises he will bring you back. The men Paul says had left the faith were not spoken of those God would bring back no fear. Jesus spoke of the faith of some from the imperishable seed, the Word, that perished and he offered no comfort in God reviving them.
I know you believe it. God does pursue those who leave but He doesn’t guarantee He will override their decision. One of your team says she resisted him for 28 YEARS. They are those who resist until the end and they become lost.
I know you believe it. God does pursue those who leave but He doesn’t guarantee He will override their decision. One of your team says she resisted him for 28 YEARS. They are those who resist until the end and they become lost.
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