The Purpose of Speaking in Tongues
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…6Love takes no pleasure in evil, but rejoices in the truth. 7It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. 8Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be restrained; where there is knowledge, it will be dismissed.…
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How many times in the Old Testament did Israel fail God? Yet their failure was never final. Love never says die. Peter failed Jesus, yet the Lord restored him. The Corinthians failed Paul in some ways, yet the apostle, in love, patiently corrected them and called them “sanctified” (1 Corinthians 1:2). Love always points to a brighter day ahead. Love is the lifeline that the hurting can hold on to."
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If speaking in tongues (the "modern" kind as some call it) didn't provide the benefits that are promised, I would agree with you. But I have it and can testify that yes, tongues operates today just as it did then...and provides the same benefits that were promised then.
And I don't mean that as some kind of argument point, because it's not an argument, it's just an experienced observation based on use.
Love in Jesus,
Kelby
And I don't mean that as some kind of argument point, because it's not an argument, it's just an experienced observation based on use.
Love in Jesus,
Kelby
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If you've ever seen young children on a playground when one of them has gotten a new toy, you might begin to understand the bad behavior of some who have received speaking in tongues. The new toy on the playground is a good thing, but the behavior of the owner of the toy can be detestable.
I might not want to say it, but the same can happen in Holy Ghost churches when they don't have someone to teach them....or even for a short time while they are learning that lesson.
In the real world, we don't condemn the school or the parents when a child acts badly in this way....we teach the child to mature and use their new toy with love, to benefit all.
The same kind of teaching needs to occur in churches...which is a lot of what is going on in 1 Corinthians 12, 13, 14.
Spiritual gifts are good things, but they can be used improperly.
Love in Jesus,
Kelby
P.S. I don't like to associate spiritual gifts with "toys" but I do realize when a person receives the Holy Ghost they are a BABE in Christ and need to learn from scratch what that means. Babies and toddlers can be downright mean with how they use their abilities.
Consider how Elisha first used the power he'd just recieved after Elijah was taken up. He used it to kill a bunch of children. 2 Kings 2:23,24
I might not want to say it, but the same can happen in Holy Ghost churches when they don't have someone to teach them....or even for a short time while they are learning that lesson.
In the real world, we don't condemn the school or the parents when a child acts badly in this way....we teach the child to mature and use their new toy with love, to benefit all.
The same kind of teaching needs to occur in churches...which is a lot of what is going on in 1 Corinthians 12, 13, 14.
Spiritual gifts are good things, but they can be used improperly.
Love in Jesus,
Kelby
P.S. I don't like to associate spiritual gifts with "toys" but I do realize when a person receives the Holy Ghost they are a BABE in Christ and need to learn from scratch what that means. Babies and toddlers can be downright mean with how they use their abilities.
Consider how Elisha first used the power he'd just recieved after Elijah was taken up. He used it to kill a bunch of children. 2 Kings 2:23,24
I think that people take the word of God too lightly, forgetting that death and life are in the power of the tongue. Most people, including Christians, fail to learn to operate in much of any kind of power. That's a sad thing considering how much Jesus demonstrated how the power works, and was constantly trying to get his disciples to step up and use that power themselves. Then he died on the cross, rose again, departed to the father, and poured out the Holy Ghost so WE can have that same Spirit and Power living in us. And what do people do with that?? They DENY the POWER as it is written:
And I am SO glad that this particular posting is not in reply to any individual on this thread, because this is a message to ALL. STOP DENYING THE POWER! Learn what it is, how to use it, and how to use it in LOVE.
The bible says "the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power." - 1 Corinthians 4:20 KJV
And some on here have nothing but words... Others have power (because they have the Holy Ghost) but don't realize what they have.
How can people claim to have the Spirit of God but walk around with less power than the disciples were using before the Holy Ghost was even poured out??? What's wrong with this picture?? Is there no faith?
And I guess this part is for those who have actually experienced a little of the power of God... Weren't there some clues as to how and why the power of God showed up when he moved? For example, weren't people praying, reading, fasting and/or praising when God showed up? Do you think God is a respecter of persons and wouldn't show up if you did those things earnestly, too, or now, or again?
I'm stopping there for now (for a few reasons), but for those who claim to have God, you need to have more than words to have the kingdom of God.
Love in Jesus,
Kelby
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. - 2 Timothy 3:5 KJV
And I am SO glad that this particular posting is not in reply to any individual on this thread, because this is a message to ALL. STOP DENYING THE POWER! Learn what it is, how to use it, and how to use it in LOVE.
The bible says "the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power." - 1 Corinthians 4:20 KJV
And some on here have nothing but words... Others have power (because they have the Holy Ghost) but don't realize what they have.
How can people claim to have the Spirit of God but walk around with less power than the disciples were using before the Holy Ghost was even poured out??? What's wrong with this picture?? Is there no faith?
And I guess this part is for those who have actually experienced a little of the power of God... Weren't there some clues as to how and why the power of God showed up when he moved? For example, weren't people praying, reading, fasting and/or praising when God showed up? Do you think God is a respecter of persons and wouldn't show up if you did those things earnestly, too, or now, or again?
I'm stopping there for now (for a few reasons), but for those who claim to have God, you need to have more than words to have the kingdom of God.
Love in Jesus,
Kelby
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Its doctrines where there is scheduled filling. Make a sound and fall backward sessions that are being tested today during this Pandemic. That I would think would be enough for a person to rethink. Why ? How am I being filled without someone laying on hands and other catching and causes a person to rise form being slain if the spirit?
Is there a alternate way to get filled?
The way I understand is is not so much less power for those who seeks after signs and wonders gospel .But more power than the has given. Self edifying .(self righteous) Not edifying God but rather. I did it, that confirms it .
Not sure if you have heard of the preacher Justin Peters...
He has cerebral palsy , and was going as a young lad to these kind of false preachers to be healed...
He has now in his older life got a ministry calling these false preachers out , in love and gentleness , and his heart is for all those caught up in these false teachers churches...
He has brought many to the foot of the cross Praise God , all the glory to God Amen...
...xox...
He has cerebral palsy , and was going as a young lad to these kind of false preachers to be healed...
He has now in his older life got a ministry calling these false preachers out , in love and gentleness , and his heart is for all those caught up in these false teachers churches...
He has brought many to the foot of the cross Praise God , all the glory to God Amen...
...xox...
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Its the foundation. Always a good place to start.
The Easy Read Version seems to make the meaning of stammering lips (mocking) found in the King James clearer. Then the law spoken of in 1 Corinthians 14 :21-22 can aid in identifying which brothers and sisters we can warn of what I would call dark places. (oral traditions of men)
The new ceremonial law as a sign to the world is found in 1 Corinthian 11. Its a sign or what I would call a wedding invitation to all the nations to the whole world. In a hope they might search out prophecy the tongue of God . Like all ceremonial laws they are not to self-edifying .but rather edify the one wo who has the power to create anew.
The tongue of God, the new tongue of believers (they are temple of God) it the gospel can cast out demons that mock the spirit of judgement (falling backward slain in the Spirit). This is if the Spirit applies his power .
We plant the incorruptible seed he causes things to move forward and backward.
We can warn them to get off the high horse of oral traditions of corrupted mankind .(false doctrines poison) and pray.
Fast. . . offer the gospel our new tongue and pray God would apply
Below the Holy Spirit defines the word Dan as the spirit of judgement expressing the letter of the law. "Death"
Genesis 49:16 Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel.Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.
The Easy Read Version seems to make the meaning of stammering lips (mocking) found in the King James clearer. Then the law spoken of in 1 Corinthians 14 :21-22 can aid in identifying which brothers and sisters we can warn of what I would call dark places. (oral traditions of men)
The new ceremonial law as a sign to the world is found in 1 Corinthian 11. Its a sign or what I would call a wedding invitation to all the nations to the whole world. In a hope they might search out prophecy the tongue of God . Like all ceremonial laws they are not to self-edifying .but rather edify the one wo who has the power to create anew.
The tongue of God, the new tongue of believers (they are temple of God) it the gospel can cast out demons that mock the spirit of judgement (falling backward slain in the Spirit). This is if the Spirit applies his power .
We plant the incorruptible seed he causes things to move forward and backward.
We can warn them to get off the high horse of oral traditions of corrupted mankind .(false doctrines poison) and pray.
Fast. . . offer the gospel our new tongue and pray God would apply
Below the Holy Spirit defines the word Dan as the spirit of judgement expressing the letter of the law. "Death"
Genesis 49:16 Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel.Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.
I already showed that the tongues being invented to omit the need of an interpreter in preaching is bizare in that paul says in an assembly an interpreter must interpret what was said in tongues.
That is a cessationist clever attempt that is foolish.
Imagine a meeting where a second interpreter needed to call back what was said,or the one preaching in a foreign language needed to call back in another language foreign to his audience.
Back to the cessationist drawing board.
That is a cessationist clever attempt that is foolish.
Imagine a meeting where a second interpreter needed to call back what was said,or the one preaching in a foreign language needed to call back in another language foreign to his audience.
Back to the cessationist drawing board.
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No I have never heard of him. When people go out to prove false teaching and do so in their own strength, it is usually harsh and they will not help most people. But when a person does so by the leading of and with the power of the Holy Spirit, there can be a different outcome.
There are many false voices in the world saying they are prophets or teachers or what have you and yet God has never called them and has not put one single word in their mouth. There will be a day of reckoning when God separates the wheat from the chaff but for now we know those who really do belong to him by the fruit of their lives.
hugs
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Prophesying. . the tongue of God is God giving his interpretation to all nations.
Tongues is prophecy. Prophecy is the word of God. Prophesying is declaring the word of God. all one in the same. some divide the word and ad new meaning.
Watched a preacher of TV the other day that was teaching 40% of the bible was prophecy and not the whole book.we are made aware of that wile of the evil one.
The Holy Spirit would not suggest look for a Jim Jones .the Jones town assembly. Only he had the true understanding of senseless sounds that make men fall backward slain in the spirit .
The spiritual unseen gifts are still active. They work in us to give us faith that comes from hearing God to believe the unseen things of God. . .
Tongues is prophecy. Prophecy is the word of God. Prophesying is declaring the word of God. all one in the same. some divide the word and ad new meaning.
Watched a preacher of TV the other day that was teaching 40% of the bible was prophecy and not the whole book.we are made aware of that wile of the evil one.
The Holy Spirit would not suggest look for a Jim Jones .the Jones town assembly. Only he had the true understanding of senseless sounds that make men fall backward slain in the spirit .
The spiritual unseen gifts are still active. They work in us to give us faith that comes from hearing God to believe the unseen things of God. . .
But see right here, you just admitted that YOU had to add this interpretation to it when you said "We know they must have said much more than this", then you go on to assume, assert, and insert all of this-
"I propose that the same reason that these others mocking said these men are full of new wine is the same reason that people who see someone speak in tongues today say these men are crazy. They think they are babbling. From day one the saints who receive this gift have been persecuted as lunatic and so it will be until Jesus comes back. We are in good company. Keep praying in tongues and let the mockers mock."
You could very well be right on, but the fact of the matter is you have to add that, and God did not see fit to word it the way you are interpreting it.
I'm not trying to teach, correct, or "show you" at all here concerning actual tongues, but what I am trying to do is get you to acknowledge that what you said is not what the text says, that you have to assume the bit that you wrote. Again this may be a sound deduction and right on truth here, but even so you have to add what you're saying.
"I propose that the same reason that these others mocking said these men are full of new wine is the same reason that people who see someone speak in tongues today say these men are crazy. They think they are babbling. From day one the saints who receive this gift have been persecuted as lunatic and so it will be until Jesus comes back. We are in good company. Keep praying in tongues and let the mockers mock."
You could very well be right on, but the fact of the matter is you have to add that, and God did not see fit to word it the way you are interpreting it.
I'm not trying to teach, correct, or "show you" at all here concerning actual tongues, but what I am trying to do is get you to acknowledge that what you said is not what the text says, that you have to assume the bit that you wrote. Again this may be a sound deduction and right on truth here, but even so you have to add what you're saying.
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