Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians
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The phrase "the GREAT tribulation" refers only to the SECOND HALF of the 7 yrs.
Rev3:10 is speaking of the entire 7 yrs (or at the very least, the FIRST HALF starting at its BEGINNING point--kept out of THAT--"[...] I will keep you OUT FROM the HOUR of..." [i.e. OUT FROM the TIME PERIOD]).
Just because "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" will be raptured BEFORE the FIRST SEAL is opened at the START of the trib yrs (parallel a number of other passages), does not mean they REMAIN there [located there SOLELY] for the remainder of "eternity" (so to speak).
Recall again what the 24 elders say in 5:9 (and what the next verse states, v.10, along with 1:5-6).
Then, one must grasp what is meant in 3:10 by "Because you have kept the word of My patient endurance [...]" . It has a specific meaning.
As to the word "overcome," see again 1Jn5:5, "Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?" Then recall what the verse quoted below states:
Again, "unto the churchES" is not identical to saying "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY".
In the former, there are BOTH "believers" AND "those who come in His name, but are not actually connected with CHRIST [i.e. they are NOT SAVED]"... but in the latter, it is made up of ONLY BELIEVERS. See the distinction?
I'll try to come back later to put more to these points...
Rev3:10 is speaking of the entire 7 yrs (or at the very least, the FIRST HALF starting at its BEGINNING point--kept out of THAT--"[...] I will keep you OUT FROM the HOUR of..." [i.e. OUT FROM the TIME PERIOD]).
Just because "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" will be raptured BEFORE the FIRST SEAL is opened at the START of the trib yrs (parallel a number of other passages), does not mean they REMAIN there [located there SOLELY] for the remainder of "eternity" (so to speak).
Recall again what the 24 elders say in 5:9 (and what the next verse states, v.10, along with 1:5-6).
Then, one must grasp what is meant in 3:10 by "Because you have kept the word of My patient endurance [...]" . It has a specific meaning.
As to the word "overcome," see again 1Jn5:5, "Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?" Then recall what the verse quoted below states:
Again, "unto the churchES" is not identical to saying "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY".
In the former, there are BOTH "believers" AND "those who come in His name, but are not actually connected with CHRIST [i.e. they are NOT SAVED]"... but in the latter, it is made up of ONLY BELIEVERS. See the distinction?
I'll try to come back later to put more to these points...
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"hast redeemed US [G2248] to God by thy blood out of [ek] every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation"
...and this is following the "WAS FOUND" word in 5:4, which is certainly indicative of a "searching judgment" having already been conducted (just like is used of Paul in the latter parts of Acts, when he was brought before their "BEMA seat"). IOW, this isn't speaking of humans [believers] UPON THEIR DEATH. [ex. like "the dead IN Christ" who are "present with the Lord" even now, since they died... No. Not that.]
...and this is following the "WAS FOUND" word in 5:4, which is certainly indicative of a "searching judgment" having already been conducted (just like is used of Paul in the latter parts of Acts, when he was brought before their "BEMA seat"). IOW, this isn't speaking of humans [believers] UPON THEIR DEATH. [ex. like "the dead IN Christ" who are "present with the Lord" even now, since they died... No. Not that.]
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There ya have it, the post- trib second coming and rapture.
Matthew24:29-31KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Matthew24:29-31KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
You may be either misunderstanding or misrepresenting what is being said. The main harvest oR Resurrection/Rapture occurs in the twinkling of an eye. But the Tribulation saints (those beheaded by the Antichrist) are resurrected at least seven years later. However, all the righteous (the saints) are a part of the first resurrection.
THE FIRST RESURRECTION (THE RIGHTEOUS)
PHASE I THE FIRST FRUITS: Christ
PHASE II THE MAIN HARVEST: The Resurrection/Rapture
PHASE III THE GLEANINGS: The Tribulation saints
THE FIRST RESURRECTION (THE RIGHTEOUS)
PHASE I THE FIRST FRUITS: Christ
PHASE II THE MAIN HARVEST: The Resurrection/Rapture
PHASE III THE GLEANINGS: The Tribulation saints
^ The way I see it is, that there is more than one "HARVEST" (in Scripture and in nature).
Thus, "the 144,000," who are said to be "firstfruit," are not "firstfruit" of ONE/the FIRST[-and-ONLY] "harvest," with all of the rest of us coming up as the REST OF THAT harvest [at the END of trib]... like some suggest.
No.
Thus, "the 144,000," who are said to be "firstfruit," are not "firstfruit" of ONE/the FIRST[-and-ONLY] "harvest," with all of the rest of us coming up as the REST OF THAT harvest [at the END of trib]... like some suggest.
No.
I am one [as a 'pre-trib adherent' 
] who happens to disagree with that ^ particular point.
In past posts I've listed tons of passages showing the "saints" ('still-living') who will ENTER the MK age in their mortal bodies (at the time of Christ's Second Coming to the earth, not "our Rapture" time-slot)... Matt25:31-34 (and context) being one of those passages speaking of their ENTRANCE INTO the MK age, as "still-living" persons ('saints' [only!]) upon His RETURN to the earth (parallel also to the Matt13:24,30,39,40,49-50 passage, same... "still-living" persons/saints/'the righteous' at that point in the chronology: His return to the earth Rev19 [not "our Rapture" context, which takes place in the EXACT OPPOSITE SEQUENCE from that which is described in this particular text/context, btw])... and Luke 12:36-37,38,40,42-44 "when he will RETURN FROM the wedding"... THEN the meal [G347]... (,<--the ppl in that scene are "still-living" persons on the earth, upon His "RETURN" there)... and about 8-9 other "BLESSED" passages, like Dan12:12 for example, "BLESSED is he that waiteth, and cometh to the 1335 days" ("still-living" saints, same point in the chronology, at His "RETURN" to the earth Rev19).
] who happens to disagree with that ^ particular point.In past posts I've listed tons of passages showing the "saints" ('still-living') who will ENTER the MK age in their mortal bodies (at the time of Christ's Second Coming to the earth, not "our Rapture" time-slot)... Matt25:31-34 (and context) being one of those passages speaking of their ENTRANCE INTO the MK age, as "still-living" persons ('saints' [only!]) upon His RETURN to the earth (parallel also to the Matt13:24,30,39,40,49-50 passage, same... "still-living" persons/saints/'the righteous' at that point in the chronology: His return to the earth Rev19 [not "our Rapture" context, which takes place in the EXACT OPPOSITE SEQUENCE from that which is described in this particular text/context, btw])... and Luke 12:36-37,38,40,42-44 "when he will RETURN FROM the wedding"... THEN the meal [G347]... (,<--the ppl in that scene are "still-living" persons on the earth, upon His "RETURN" there)... and about 8-9 other "BLESSED" passages, like Dan12:12 for example, "BLESSED is he that waiteth, and cometh to the 1335 days" ("still-living" saints, same point in the chronology, at His "RETURN" to the earth Rev19).
""Will God fulfill his promise to protect the Church from the final hour of earths temptation during the tribulation?""
Jesus gave us,the church,the 2 escape verses,the promise of mansions in heaven,the wedding feast in heaven,the lot and noah PRETRIB dynamic,one taken/ one left.
The rapture is not the second coming.
We see Jesus return in rev 14 and harvest ripe fruit DURING THE GT.
You ignore all of that.
Jesus gave us,the church,the 2 escape verses,the promise of mansions in heaven,the wedding feast in heaven,the lot and noah PRETRIB dynamic,one taken/ one left.
The rapture is not the second coming.
We see Jesus return in rev 14 and harvest ripe fruit DURING THE GT.
You ignore all of that.
That verse is a great pretrib rapture verse.
It reads exactly in line with a pretrib rapture.
The problem you ignore is that harvest is 4 parts.
You are taking the main harvest, putting it out of place,then trying to build around a false concept.
1st fruits
Main harvest
Cleaners
Corners.
The bible has a harmony
Many concepts TOGETHER.
....not one isolated deal like "trumpet,twinkling",etc
Those talking points do not void other verses
It reads exactly in line with a pretrib rapture.
The problem you ignore is that harvest is 4 parts.
You are taking the main harvest, putting it out of place,then trying to build around a false concept.
1st fruits
Main harvest
Cleaners
Corners.
The bible has a harmony
Many concepts TOGETHER.
....not one isolated deal like "trumpet,twinkling",etc
Those talking points do not void other verses
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