Attacks on the Rapture: a popular pastime among some Christians
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That's correct the tribulation saints who do not take the mark are part of the first resurrection. The pre TRIB rapture Christians are also part of the first resurrection, as are the 144,000 Israelites. The faithful Old Testament saints are also part of the first resurrection. All of these have been gifted with eternal life. Let's not forget about the two witnesses of Revelation.
Not complicated if you're paying attention.
Not complicated if you're paying attention.
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Paul states that the resurrection of the dead and our changing takes place in a twinkling of an eye.
But you are saying it will be at least seven years before all are resurrected and changed.
Don't you see how stupid that sounds?
That is just ignoring what Scripture teaches because it destroys the foundation your belief is built on.
But you are saying it will be at least seven years before all are resurrected and changed.
Don't you see how stupid that sounds?
That is just ignoring what Scripture teaches because it destroys the foundation your belief is built on.
Nope. You are not and were not paying attention.
All Christians, every single one of them (other than the few "fruit firstfruits" Christians who were resurrected shortly after Christ was resurrected) enjoy a pre-tribulation rapture resurrection to glorified bodies. Quite frankly they seem to be the lucky ones.
The orderly sequence of the itemized groups of the "first resurrection" are laid out perfectly and unequivocally. It's not God's fault that it seems a little bit complicated.
All Christians, every single one of them (other than the few "fruit firstfruits" Christians who were resurrected shortly after Christ was resurrected) enjoy a pre-tribulation rapture resurrection to glorified bodies. Quite frankly they seem to be the lucky ones.
The orderly sequence of the itemized groups of the "first resurrection" are laid out perfectly and unequivocally. It's not God's fault that it seems a little bit complicated.
Paul said, "Behold, I shew you a mystery..." (this is something that had heretofore not as yet been disclosed, but which he has now been tasked with disclosing... thus, what he is about to say is not exactly the same thing that Martha and ALL of the OT saints already WELL-KNEW [note: they had not been promised "RAPTURE," see, only "RESURRECTION ['to stand again on the earth']")
...then he proceeds to get into the details of just what he has been tasked with disclosing... in particular:
--"THIS corruptible" (speaking of those members of "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" [(also) the "we" of the text] who will have DIED up to that point-in-time being referred to); and
--"THIS mortal (speaking of the "we which are ALIVE and remain unto..." [same...])
... so this is speaking of a very specific group, and at a very specific point-in-time, regarding details that had heretofore not as yet been disclosed (unlike what Martha spoke of ['resurrection'] and WELL-KNEW about, in John 11:24).
[that's just for starters, on this point... this text being about "WE" shall not all sleep, but "WE" shall all be changed... (Paul has been tasked with disclosing "doctrinal truths" pertaining specifically to/for/about "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" [Eph1:20-23 WHEN (as to its existence)])]
...then he proceeds to get into the details of just what he has been tasked with disclosing... in particular:
--"THIS corruptible" (speaking of those members of "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" [(also) the "we" of the text] who will have DIED up to that point-in-time being referred to); and
--"THIS mortal (speaking of the "we which are ALIVE and remain unto..." [same...])
... so this is speaking of a very specific group, and at a very specific point-in-time, regarding details that had heretofore not as yet been disclosed (unlike what Martha spoke of ['resurrection'] and WELL-KNEW about, in John 11:24).
[that's just for starters, on this point... this text being about "WE" shall not all sleep, but "WE" shall all be changed... (Paul has been tasked with disclosing "doctrinal truths" pertaining specifically to/for/about "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" [Eph1:20-23 WHEN (as to its existence)])]
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As is always the case you people put your own spin on Scripture to support your belief.
Why not just read the Scripture and believe what it very plainly and clearly states.
It ain't complicated.
The first resurrection takes place in the twinkling of an eye not spread out over hundreds of years.
The blind leading the blind.
Why not just read the Scripture and believe what it very plainly and clearly states.
It ain't complicated.
The first resurrection takes place in the twinkling of an eye not spread out over hundreds of years.
The blind leading the blind.
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I'm sure you are as aware as I am, that exactly NO ONE suggested "spread out over hundreds of years" when it comes to "the resurrection OF THE JUST"/"the resurrection OF LIFE," which is what (as you say) takes place "in a fairly tightly packed span of time" and in sequence (NOT "over hundreds of years"). Yes.
I really have no clue why some say "I understand your viewpoint perfectly well [with some adding, 'coz I used to hold to it, myself!']", and then proceed to "explain it" in a completely "OFF-BASE" manner... Puzzles me to no end...
I really have no clue why some say "I understand your viewpoint perfectly well [with some adding, 'coz I used to hold to it, myself!']", and then proceed to "explain it" in a completely "OFF-BASE" manner... Puzzles me to no end...
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The Sons of God were Human "Men" as Genesis 6:1 shows, they were not "Angels" as Chuck Missler falsely taught and "Angels" dont procreate with humans, they arent given in marriage.
This "False Teaching" is derived from "Greek Mythology"
Your claim that the "Sons of God "RAPED" the daughters of men is 100% false, as they married them as wives.
Your teachings aren't to be taken seriously, at this point they're pure folly, in willful ignorance on display.
Genesis 6:1-2KJV
6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
This "False Teaching" is derived from "Greek Mythology"
Your claim that the "Sons of God "RAPED" the daughters of men is 100% false, as they married them as wives.
Your teachings aren't to be taken seriously, at this point they're pure folly, in willful ignorance on display.
Genesis 6:1-2KJV
6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
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I am one [as a 'pre-trib adherent' ] who happens to disagree with that ^ particular point.
In past posts I've listed tons of passages showing the "saints" ('still-living') who will ENTER the MK age in their mortal bodies (at the time of Christ's Second Coming to the earth, not "our Rapture" time-slot)... Matt25:31-34 (and context) being one of those passages speaking of their ENTRANCE INTO the MK age, as "still-living" persons ('saints' [only!]) upon His RETURN to the earth (parallel also to the Matt13:24,30,39,40,49-50 passage, same... "still-living" persons/saints/'the righteous' at that point in the chronology: His return to the earth Rev19 [not "our Rapture" context, which takes place in the EXACT OPPOSITE SEQUENCE from that which is described in this particular text/context, btw])... and Luke 12:36-37,38,40,42-44 "when he will RETURN FROM the wedding"... THEN the meal [G347]... (,<--the ppl in that scene are "still-living" persons on the earth, upon His "RETURN" there)... and about 8-9 other "BLESSED" passages, like Dan12:12 for example, "BLESSED is he that waiteth, and cometh to the 1335 days" ("still-living" saints, same point in the chronology, at His "RETURN" to the earth Rev19).
] who happens to disagree with that ^ particular point.In past posts I've listed tons of passages showing the "saints" ('still-living') who will ENTER the MK age in their mortal bodies (at the time of Christ's Second Coming to the earth, not "our Rapture" time-slot)... Matt25:31-34 (and context) being one of those passages speaking of their ENTRANCE INTO the MK age, as "still-living" persons ('saints' [only!]) upon His RETURN to the earth (parallel also to the Matt13:24,30,39,40,49-50 passage, same... "still-living" persons/saints/'the righteous' at that point in the chronology: His return to the earth Rev19 [not "our Rapture" context, which takes place in the EXACT OPPOSITE SEQUENCE from that which is described in this particular text/context, btw])... and Luke 12:36-37,38,40,42-44 "when he will RETURN FROM the wedding"... THEN the meal [G347]... (,<--the ppl in that scene are "still-living" persons on the earth, upon His "RETURN" there)... and about 8-9 other "BLESSED" passages, like Dan12:12 for example, "BLESSED is he that waiteth, and cometh to the 1335 days" ("still-living" saints, same point in the chronology, at His "RETURN" to the earth Rev19).