"Not by works" - false!
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Amen! Saving belief in Christ continues and is not some shallow, temporary belief that has no root, produces no fruit and withers away.
*See post #1,520 - https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/not-by-works-false.192473/page-76#post-4278156
*See post #1,520 - https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/not-by-works-false.192473/page-76#post-4278156
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The Gift is not given over a lifetime... sorry it does not work that way.[/QUOTE]
So if I start going out and doing evil deeds like a Hitlar, then you will tell me that I do not have faith in Jesus and was never saved in the first place??!!
If so, that means I need to be careful to maintain my good works so that (in your eyes) I was really saved right in the first place??
Am I understanding right what you believe?
So if I start going out and doing evil deeds like a Hitlar, then you will tell me that I do not have faith in Jesus and was never saved in the first place??!!
If so, that means I need to be careful to maintain my good works so that (in your eyes) I was really saved right in the first place??
Am I understanding right what you believe?
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Romans 8:30 - Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified. *ALL of them. *Notice how Paul uses the past tense for a future event to stress it's certainty. 
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Present assurance is rock solid because I believe in Jesus Christ as my Redeemer, Saviour, Friend, Lord, and Master. He is the One who is able to keep me solid and keep my faith unshakeable and sure! If you have doubt and pressure it is because you are trusting your works and not the Lord Jesus Christ. There are no "sins" that make you lose faith: losing faith is refusing to trust in the Lord Jesus for salvation.
To believe that a point in time decision in the past is the basis of assurance means that I need to maintain good works in order to be sure that that past decision was genuine.
To believe that a point in time decision in the past is the basis of assurance means that I need to maintain good works in order to be sure that that past decision was genuine.
So if I start going out and doing evil deeds like a Hitlar, then you will tell me that I do not have faith in Jesus and was never saved in the first place??!!
If so, that means I need to be careful to maintain my good works so that (in your eyes) I was really saved right in the first place??
Am I understanding right what you believe?[/QUOTE]
A born again would never go out and do evil deeds.....remember the Holy Spirit resides in our hearts...
Oh JR I thought I was the only one - My brain works quicker than my mouth and fingers, I am always stepping over my tongue. I have asked God to please put His hand over my mouth
You are not the only one,
Straight away I believe God placed it on my heart to apologise to Judges....
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