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jackrosie

jackrosie

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Guojing said:
Even if one takes the mark, he will not lose his salvation?
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That I will have to read up on..before I can answer...that is if the Lord reveals to me what it me
Lafftur said:
Love is the view from my window....it has not shifted, however, love only fights to save, help, comfort, encourage.....love does not rejoice in lies, love rejoices in truth. :love:
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Amen!....thank you Lord for shining your light through Laffter on this thread...that is why I came back...as a few on here....I believe are in much darkness...I pray that you will shine your light into their hearts Lord...in Jesus Name.....and also thank you Father God that I found the ignore button.
 
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Lafftur said:
Well, @star and @EleventhHour -

So what if @DorothyMae is being antagonistic to the gospel of Jesus Christ and is not a searching, unsure soul on a journey with us........if we respond by talking condescending about her and to her it hurts her and our walk with the Lord.

God loves DorothyMae and all of us......after we have confronted and she has confronted us and there is no agreement, well then disassociate (click the "ignore" button) and leave her with the Lord. No need to keep harping on her.

I choose to focus on how wonderful the Gift of Salvation is that God has freely given us in Christ Jesus our Lord - NOT BY OUR WORKS but, by the works of Christ ALONE!!! :love:(y)
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Beautiful!.....Amen!...God loves you DorothyMae...
 
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EleventhHour said:
This is quite the statement....

So, some more fortunate believers escape tribulation and get to stay saved ... then those saved after the rapture can loose there salvation by their actions

Do you really believe this notion?
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Its stated in various parts from Hebrews to Revelations that you can lose your salvation. I believe what it literally says.

That is why we are living in the grace dispensation now. If you want to wait until the Tribulation to accept the free gift, good luck to you.
 
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Guojing said:
Its stated in various parts from Hebrews to Revelations that you can lose your salvation. I believe what it literally says.

That is why we are living in the grace dispensation now. If you want to wait until the Tribulation to accept the free gift, good luck to you.
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A born again can never lose their salvation....but I respect your belief.
 
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Lafftur said:
I just don't believe God is going to let any of us mess up His plan for us......:unsure::love:
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He certainly does not want to see us mess up His plan, but He has given every man a choice. He has given to every man a free will. He will force any man to keep following Him if man decides to turn back to living for himself. God still loves that man, but He will not force any man to continue following Him if that man willfully chooses to walk away and never come back.

2 Peter 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog [is] turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

His plan is not for any man to do this, but God has given every man a free will, and this freedom to choose does not cease when a man becomes born again. The Scripture are very clear on this point.

The plan of Salvation is this:

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

God wants us to continue believing upon Him but He will not force us to continue. It is not His way.

John 15:9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.

God bless you all. May you all continue to walk in the light.
 
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oyster67 said:
He certainly does not want to see us mess up His plan, but He has given every man a choice. He has given to every man a free will. He will force any man to keep following Him if man decides to turn back to living for himself. God still loves that man, but He will not force any man to continue following Him if that man willfully chooses to walk away and never come back.

2 Peter 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog [is] turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

His plan is not for any man to do this, but God has given every man a free will, and this freedom to choose does not cease when a man becomes born again. The Scripture are very clear on this point.

The plan of Salvation is this:

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

God wants us to continue believing upon Him but He will not force us to continue. It is not His way.

John 15:9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.

God bless you all. May you all continue to walk in the light.
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You used a passage. A dog returns to his vomit

A dog returns to his vomit because he is a dog

A child of god was a dog. And was made a new creation in Christ. As a new creation he dies not return to his vomit because he is not a dog

However. A dog. Who has not really been born again. Will eventually return to his vomit. Proving Johns words in that they were never of us

They did not lose salvation they never had it
 
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jackrosie said:
Buy and sell food to eat..now I’m lost.
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They are trying to use it as a back door to works

Buy and sell. You can not without the mark if the beast. A man born of god has his needs met he would never accept

They seem to lack faith or they would maybe understand?
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
You used a passage. A dog returns to his vomit

A dog returns to his vomit because he is a dog

A child of god was a dog. And was made a new creation in Christ. As a new creation he dies not return to his vomit because he is not a dog

However. A dog. Who has not really been born again. Will eventually return to his vomit. Proving Johns words in that they were never of us

They did not lose salvation they never had it
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Brilliant post,Amen!....thank you Lord.
 
jackrosie

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Chester said:
If you are lost, just believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be re-saved . . . :eek:
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If I am lost..Jesus always draws his child back...my salvation is from God....Never to be taken away......but many have tried trust me.......The Lord has revealed me to the truth.
 
oyster67

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oyster67 said:
He certainly does not want to see us mess up His plan, but He has given every man a choice. He has given to every man a free will. He will force any man to keep following Him if man decides to turn back to living for himself. God still loves that man, but He will not force any man to continue following Him if that man willfully chooses to walk away and never come back.

2 Peter 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog [is] turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

His plan is not for any man to do this, but God has given every man a free will, and this freedom to choose does not cease when a man becomes born again. The Scripture are very clear on this point.

The plan of Salvation is this:

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

God wants us to continue believing upon Him but He will not force us to continue. It is not His way.

John 15:9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.

God bless you all. May you all continue to walk in the light.
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@Judges1318 said:

Everyone who Believes has the guarantee of eternal life.
The promise is conditioned on Believing, not works.
 
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