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EleventhHour

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Trust me, she is antagonistic towards those of us who believe the Word of God that salvation is a one-time event and she accuses those who believe this as not loving God as she does.
Oh I believe you, no worries. I read her first post on this thread. ... it was looking to agitate and provoke.

Interesting on the salvation not being a one time event... all her doctrine smacks of Catholicism.
 

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Dorothy Mae or Dotty as I used to know her on another thread does nothing but belittle and berate OSAS. That's her mantra and she's sticking to it. She sees herself as the only one who "loves" God totally and completely and she constantly puts down anyone not following in her path. That's my opinion and I'm standing by it. I've heard her berating of us for a long time.
It seems clear to me @DorothyMae is antagonistic to the Gospel.

Like I stated elsewhere... if salvation is not secure in Christ Jesus then Chritianity is no different than any other religion.

This is not a searching, unsure soul on a journey with us......nope, nope nope.
Well, @star and @EleventhHour -

So what if @DorothyMae is being antagonistic to the gospel of Jesus Christ and is not a searching, unsure soul on a journey with us........if we respond by talking condescending about her and to her it hurts her and our walk with the Lord.

God loves DorothyMae and all of us......after we have confronted and she has confronted us and there is no agreement, well then disassociate (click the "ignore" button) and leave her with the Lord. No need to keep harping on her.


I choose to focus on how wonderful the Gift of Salvation is that God has freely given us in Christ Jesus our Lord - NOT BY OUR WORKS but, by the works of Christ ALONE!!! :love:(y)
 
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Well, @star and @EleventhHour -

So what if @DorothyMae is being antagonistic to the gospel of Jesus Christ and is not a searching, unsure soul on a journey with us........if we respond by talking condescending about her and to her it hurts her and our walk with the Lord.

God loves DorothyMae and all of us......after we have confronted and she has confronted us and there is no agreement, well then disassociate (click the "ignore" button) and leave her with the Lord. No need to keep harping on her.


I choose to focus on how wonderful the Gift of Salvation is that God has freely given us in Christ Jesus our Lord - NOT BY OUR WORKS but, by the works of Christ ALONE!!! :love:(y)

Then who is left to defend and protect the Gospel if we place her ignore and she continues to malign the work of Christ Jesus and salvation in Him.

You are a lovely lady, wanting the best outcome I understand this, .......but until and if then

I for one, prefer not to return to the "dark ages" and desire to stand up and speak up for the truth
 

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Then who is left to defend and protect the Gospel if we place her ignore and she continues to malign the work of Christ Jesus and salvation in Him.

You are a lovely lady, wanting the best outcome I understand this, .......but until and if then

I for one, prefer not to return to the "dark ages" and desire to stand up and speak up for the truth

You are a lovely lady, too......and very lively and fun and quick witted....very smart and loved greatly by God!! :love:(y)

Don’t use “ignore” if you want to be able to see her posts and reply but, here’s a question...

Did Jesus say to “defend” the Gospel or to “preach” it? :unsure:

Just keep loving and preaching the good news with great love and zeal and excitement over how thrilling the Gift of Salvation is!!! :love:(y)
 
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EleventhHour

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You are a lovely lady, too......and very lively and fun and quick witted....very smart and loved greatly by God!! :love:(y)

Don’t use “ignore” if you want to be able to see her posts and reply but, here’s a question...

Did Jesus say to “defend” the Gospel or to “preach” it? :unsure:

Just keep loving and preaching the good news with great love and zeal and excitement over how thrilling the Gift of Salvation is!!! :love:(y)

I believe we must defend it.

He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.
1 Titus 1:9

(y):love:(y):love: LOL
 

Lafftur

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I believe we must defend it.

He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.
1 Titus 1:9

(y):love:(y):love: LOL
Well, Peter and especially Paul was often found in the synagogues preaching and defending the gospel.....so, follow the leading of the Holy Spirit and contend for the gospel of Jesus Christ! Amen! :love:(y)
 
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Is this instruction on how to deal with false teachers in scripture.

This is what I read...

Acts 29, “I know that after my departing grievous wolves shall enter in, not sparing the flock.”

Do you think love will stop them from doing what they do, that is namely to bring harm?
One of the biggest problems with xianity....this ooey, gooey love thay embraces all, accepts all, identifies false teachers as "brethern" and accepts some pseudo ecuminical we are all trying to get to the same place garbage.....It is one thing to instruct a wayward person bound and deceived by false religion...and yet NO WHERE are we given the leeway to embrace, coddle or accept the ONE'S PEDDLING a false gospel....indeed they ARE the enemies of Christ and the messengers of SATAN and they are to be opposed by a firm stance in the truth....sickening!
 
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Smart and wonderful @EleventhHour,

Did the "Good Shepherd" die and leave you in charge of defending His sheep? :unsure:

I recall He told Peter to FEED His Sheep and wash each others feet.

The ONLY ONE that can defend the sheep from "wolves" is the Good Shepherd - Jesus Christ our Lord.

When we love and feed the sheep with TRUTH, the wolves CANNOT devour them.

If we try to feed a wolf they will reject the grass (Word of God), and attack us. We can know the difference.

Where you, dcontroveral and I are differing is when and how to recognize a sheep from a wolf......

I just don't see DorothyMae as a wolf in sheep clothing.

It's best to just stay close to the ONE and ONLY Good Shepherd of our souls and love one another. :love:(y)
This is one of the most tragic things you have said on this site.....SHE PEDDLES A LOSABLE salvation that MUST BE MAINTAINED BY US AND Not to mention her STANCE AGAINST ISRAEL....you have a lot to learn if you cannot she she is not scriptural and a false teacher!
 

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@Lafftur If this post does not open your eyes to who she really is, nothing will---> 139470
I will go and read her post but, dc there’s a difference in her mindset verses her soul. We must love her soul.

Wait, I already read and responded to that post. Nothing has changed for me.
 
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EleventhHour

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One of the biggest problems with xianity....this ooey, gooey love thay embraces all, accepts all, identifies false teachers as "brethern" and accepts some pseudo ecuminical we are all trying to get to the same place garbage.....It is one thing to instruct a wayward person bound and deceived by false religion...and yet NO WHERE are we given the leeway to embrace, coddle or accept the ONE'S PEDDLING a false gospel....indeed they ARE the enemies of Christ and the messengers of SATAN and they are to be opposed by a firm stance in the truth....sickening!
Absolutely Amen.. people have blinders on, they lack experience in the world maybe, not sure what but......

this is a true, present and ever increasing danger to the Gospel.

I feel like we are "dropping the ball" in slow motion and believers are not paying attention.

"Asleep in the light" as the phrase goes....
 
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You are a lovely lady, too......and very lively and fun and quick witted....very smart and loved greatly by God!! :love:(y)

Don’t use “ignore” if you want to be able to see her posts and reply but, here’s a question...

Did Jesus say to “defend” the Gospel or to “preach” it? :unsure:

Just keep loving and preaching the good news with great love and zeal and excitement over how thrilling the Gift of Salvation is!!! :love:(y)
Fight, defend, expose, destroy, rebuke, take a stand, take no part, rise up, and as Paul told Timothy as a GOOD SOLDIER....this is a WAR BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL, RIGHT AND WRONG, TRUE AND FALSE, JESUS' Kingdom and SATAN'S Kingdom......this is not baking contest, a carnival and or a Kum Ba Yah party........

Fight the good fight of faith,.....

Ephesians 5:11 Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.

2 Corinthians 10:5 We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ

Jude 1:3 Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people.

2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage–with great patience and careful instruction.

Philippians 1:16 The latter do so out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel.

Psalm 94:16 Who will rise up for me against the wicked? Who will take a stand for me against evildoers?
 

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Hold on, wait a second......I got to get off my phone and on my computer so I can respond faster........lol! :giggle::love:
 
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Absolutely Amen.. people have blinders on, they lack experience in the world maybe, not sure what but......

this is a true, present and ever increasing danger to the Gospel.

I feel like we are "dropping the ball" in slow motion and believers are not paying attention.

"Asleep in the light" as the phrase goes....
They absolutly, with their heads in the sand, refuse to acknowldge that we are in a CELESTIAL WAR that has impacted the planet and that MOST of Xianity is failing miserably because of a refusal to OPPOSE the enemy and his MINIONS by being apathetic to the call to arms!
 

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Hold on, wait a second......I got to get off my phone and on my computer so I can respond faster........lol! :giggle::love:
Okay, here I am. I'm on my computer now. :love:

Hold on.....gotta go look up "xianty"....:unsure:

This is what I found....

Xian
This is an abbreviation for the word Christian. It comes from the Greek name for Christ, Xristos, and is essentially the same notation as we commonly see with Xmas.
 
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False Teachers...

Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and wobeuld pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, LET HIM/HER BE ACCURSED. <---NOT CODDLED AND EMBRACED

For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
 

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Okay, I had to look up ecumenical, too....

Definition of ecumenical. 1a : of, relating to, or representing the whole of a body of churches. b : promoting or tending toward worldwide Christian unity or cooperation. 2 : worldwide or general in extent, influence, or application.
 
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I will go and read her post but, dc there’s a difference in her mindset verses her soul. We must love her soul.

Wait, I already read and responded to that post. Nothing has changed for me.
PAUL, under INSPIRATION Commanded and SAID that ANYONE THAT CORRUPTS THE GOSPEL of Christ are to be considered ACCURSED and NOT coddled, embraced and or smoozed....