Is YOUR church doctrinal statement ONE with SATAN?

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Reformyourself

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The NKJV is my favorite version. Trying to read KJV, especially names and places is just too tedious for me. However, I do love the first chapter of Hebrews as presented in the KJV.
just read it😁
Heb. 1:7 m.henry commentary
Many Jews had a superstitious or idolatrous respect for angels, because they had received the law and other tidings of the Divine will by their ministry. They looked upon them as mediators between God and men, and some went so far as to pay them a kind of religious homage or worship. Thus it was necessary that the apostle should insist, not only on Christ's being the Creator of all things, and therefore of angels themselves, but as being the risen and exalted Messiah in human nature, to whom angels, authorities, and powers are made subject. (It’s Not just the Jewish people who idolise angels)
 
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Reformyourself

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Why am i still seeing this thread, when I’ve chosen to I un-watch it...this site is messed up 🤪
 

crossnote

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I would guess the average Joe seated in church has no clue. Whatever their preacher says is the truth. They’ll sit there while the preacher wows them with his knowledge of Greek.🤦‍♂️
...or 'wow' them with his pseudo-knowledge of how the KJV is the 'perfect' translation.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I have sencond hand embarrassment for the Poster, and those two yahoos in the video. They should learn to think. It's like listening to a flat earther attempt to justify their foolishness with circular reasoning, and contra logic. If they are pastors they should step down.
 

John146

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...or 'wow' them with his pseudo-knowledge of how the KJV is the 'perfect' translation.
Lol, “don’t they know that nobody has access to God’s word? They’re so foolish believing they actually have God’s word as He promised.”
 

Dino246

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Why am i still seeing this thread, when I’ve chosen to I un-watch it...this site is messed up 🤪
I don't "watch" any threads, and they all show up for me. I believe that "watching" a thread just results in you receiving notifications when someone adds to the thread. So; it's not really that messed up. :)
 

crossnote

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Lol, “don’t they know that nobody has access to God’s word? They’re so foolish believing they actually have God’s word as He promised.”
OR...everyone that has a decent translation and the Author of the originals of that translation, equally has God's Word.
 

John146

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OR...everyone that has a decent translation and the Author of the originals of that translation, equally has God's Word.
Did God promise to preserve a decent translation? I believe the same God who gave man His holy word is very capable to preserve it perfectly. Do you believe He can do this?
 

Dino246

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Did God promise to preserve a decent translation? I believe the same God who gave man His holy word is very capable to preserve it perfectly. Do you believe He can do this?
Your question is a canard. What God theoretically can do is irrelevant in determining what He has done. He has preserved His word. Human standards of perfection are also irrelevant.
 

John146

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Your question is a canard. What God theoretically can do is irrelevant in determining what He has done. He has preserved His word. Human standards of perfection are also irrelevant.
Ok, if God preserved His word, He would preserve it perfectly pure and without error. Where is it? Do we have access to it?
 

Dino246

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Ok, if God preserved His word, He would preserve it perfectly pure and without error. Where is it? Do we have access to it?
Where is that in Scripture? You're basing your position on human speculation with human standards.
 

fredoheaven

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Original autographs are no longer in existence but God preserved his words through faithful copies of these 'originals. KJV is a translation from the copies of Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek Koine or "out of the original tongues" meaning language but not the original 'autographs' and diligently compared with previous English Protestant Translations and other languages such as French, Latin, Italic Bibles. etc. God bless
 

John146

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Where is that in Scripture? You're basing your position on human speculation with human standards.
If God preserved His word, you’re claiming He would preserve it with errors, not perfect? 🤦‍♂️
 

John146

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Where is that in Scripture? You're basing your position on human speculation with human standards.
Perfectly pure and without error is not human standards.
 

Dino246

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If God preserved His word, you’re claiming He would preserve it with errors, not perfect? 🤦‍♂️
Quote me where I claim that.

Since you can't, don't make stupid assertions.
 

fredoheaven

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OR...everyone that has a decent translation and the Author of the originals of that translation, equally has God's Word.
I would think there must be one final complete inerrant Bible. It so happens that we have no complete Bible in Hebrew, Aramaic or Greek Bible. Decency may contain the words of God but not pure words of God. I believe, KJV stands out among others. KJV is the word of God. God bless.
 

fredoheaven

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Ok, if God preserved His word, He would preserve it perfectly pure and without error. Where is it? Do we have access to it?
The inability of God to preserve his words perfectly is not according to his attributes. God is perfect and so his words. God bless