Not By Works

[jackrosie]

Once again

john said they departed from us, but they were never of us, for if they were they never would have left.
who are they? Antichrists
who is an antichrist, anyone who does not believe (have faith)

I left for 5 as a prodigal child, I never stopped having faith, my faith weekend, but it was still there, the chastening of a God is what brought me back.

You were obedient BECAUSE of faith

literally Faith Love and Hope, they greatest of which is love

I was obedient because I was sick of going my own way..I never went to church for 25 yrs...I had a terrible experience in one....I love God dearly.....but I was destroyed in that church as a new babe.
After 25 yrs I plucked up the courage to go back to that same church...I put my trust back into God.

Please stop telling me why I was obedient..you don’t know me,so please don’t speak for me.

 

[jackrosie]

When I claim I have not met god face to face and you keep insisting I say I have

yes I a, judging that as a sin

And I’m explaining what meeting God means to me...I have sinned “NOT”,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I was obedient because I was sick of going my own way..I never went to church for 25 yrs...I had a terrible experience in one....I love God dearly.....but I was destroyed in that church as a new babe.
After 25 yrs I plucked up the courage to go back to that same church...I put my trust back into God.

Please stop telling me why I was obedient..you don’t know me,so please don’t speak for me.

When we give ourselves credit, we should fear

 

[eternally-gratefull]

And I’m explaining what meeting God means to me...I have sinned “NOT”,

Whatever. Keep believing that

 

[jackrosie]

When we give ourselves credit, we should fear

I have given myself no credit.....God got me back to church....I walked back in faith.

You have completely twisted my post...I turned back to God...instead of trying to do everything in my own strength.....I am born again..and God is my Father Big Time!

 

[jackrosie]

Whatever. Keep believing that

And you do the same,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I have given myself no credit.....God got me back to church....I walked back in faith.

which is what I said

thank you

You have completely twisted my post...I turned back to God...instead of trying to do everything in my own strength.....I am born again..and God is my Father Big Time!

you were brought back by a god, just like I was

 

[DorothyMae]

What grows our faith is allowing gods love to flow through us, as we take steps of faith and prove god is trustworthy

So do you wait until he fills you with love so it flows through you before you obey clear instructions?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

So do you wait until he fills you with love so it flows through you before you obey clear instructions?

God filled me the moment I was born again. As he told the woman at the wells the water he gives flows and keeps flowing. As Jesus said in John 6. His food endures forever we never hunger or thirst

If you are waiting for Gods love something is seriously wrong

 

[Duskey]

We also have false teachers on here.....so I will red x them.if I believe their posts are false.

Name the false teachers that are here on CC and state their specific heresies using Scripture to support your claims.

 

[EleventhHour]

You don’t understand those of us who don’t agree with your theology. This is clear in your words. It would help if you tried to understand. You thinking we are changing when we don’t is evidence you haven’t understood.

I do indeed understand your theology quite well unfortunately.

Your theology is filled with inconsistencies, fallacy, doubt, striving, .... moreover and worse yet it makes God a liar.

His word is clear... God has effected our salvation and our salvation is secure because of who He is, NOT by our maintaining it.

30 And those he predestined, he also called; and those he called, he also justified; and those he justified, he also glorified.
Romans 8:30

 

[DorothyMae]

God filled me the moment I was born again. As he told the woman at the wells the water he gives flows and keeps flowing. As Jesus said in John 6. His food endures forever we never hunger or thirst

If you are waiting for Gods love something is seriously wrong

1. That you are willed with love for God and his children is. of evident. Not saying it isn’t there, just saying it isn’t evident.
2. So do you do the will of God now since salvation each and every day since you are already as filled as you’re going to be?

 

[EleventhHour]

Walking with God is all about learning...we all say things..then eventually realise we are wrong...

Are you perfect...no don’t answer that...of course you aren’t...you can say what ever you like about me...again I have noticed you interpret scripture to fit into your box..

In one week you went from agreeing with eternal security to now believing salvation is not secure.................... and did you really search

the scriptures like a good Berean... or you just believe our resident false teacher?

 

[DorothyMae]

I do indeed understand your theology quite well unfortunately.

Your theology is filled with inconsistencies, fallacy, doubt, striving, .... moreover and worse yet it makes God a liar.

I’ve known me longer than you have and can say with 100% certainty that you do not understand what I think at all. I’ve pointed out before examples of where you are wrong.

His word is clear... God has effected our salvation and our salvation is secure because of who He is not by our maintaining it.

30 And those he predestined, he also called; and those he called, he also justified; and those he justified, he also glorified.
Romans 8:30

I know thoroughly what you believe. You do not know what I believe and I, not you, am the best judge of this.

 

[DorothyMae]

The fruit of OSAS is so clear in your responses. To jeer is not christlike. Doesn’t hurt me. But it convinces the open mind that this theology does not produce good fruit.

 

[EleventhHour]

The fruit of OSAS is so clear in your responses. To jeer is not christlike.

It was quite funny actually...but I guess you cannot see it.

 

[DorothyMae]

It was quite funny actually...but I guess you cannot see it.

Do you just laugh AT me or do you admit I was right? So far all your laughing faces were jeering.

It was funny but you need to do something different than the jeering you do in a serious discussion if you genuine thought it was a nice touch on my part. It looks like laughed AT which is your habit. You’re asked a serious question and you “laugh” which is scoffing.

 

[EleventhHour]

I’ve known me longer than you have and can say with 100% certainty that you do not understand what I think at all. I’ve pointed out before examples of where you are wrong.
I know thoroughly what you believe. You do not know what I believe and I, not you, am the best judge of this.

Where have you used scripture to point out that eternal security is wrong... I must have missed that... as a matter of fact I rarely see you use any scripture?

 

[DorothyMae]

Where have you used scripture to point out that eternal security is wrong... I must have missed that... as a matter of fact I rarely see you use any scripture?

I often weave it into my words to test who knows scripture or whose thinking matches it. It’s pretty interesting when a member disagrees with a verbatim quote cause they thought I said it when actually Jesus did.

 

[DorothyMae]

Where have you used scripture to point out that eternal security is wrong... I must have missed that... as a matter of fact I rarely see you use any scripture?

I’ve even told this is a “works don’t yield salvation “ thread and thou shalt not debate OSAS here. I’m obedient.