You deny a future second coming of Jesus Christ is seen in the Holy bible
"Full Preterism" is 100% Heresy!
The absurdity and heresy of Preterism
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"Full Preterism" is 100% Heresy!
I respect your right in denying a future second coming is seen in the Holy Bible, and I will continue to "Expose" your false teaching.
You deny a future second coming of Jesus Christ is seen in the Holy bible
"Full Preterism" is 100% Heresy!
Jesus was born (1st coming to the world), Jesus died and left this world, he came back (2nd coming to the world). Do you deny that that is true?
Jw's and Mormons are more credible in their biblical eschatology.
You deny a future second coming of Jesus Christ is seen in the Holy bible
"Full Preterism" is 100% Heresy!
A future coming of Christ may be in the bible but nothing have presented is that second coming.
Your claim Jesus died and left this world, and he came back to this world "Fulfilled" a second coming is "False"
As seen below in Acts 1:8-12 Jesus Christ left the earth in a "Visible" body that could speak in a physical world.
You deny a future second coming of Jesus Christ is seen in the Holy bible
"Full Preterism" is 100% Heresy!
Acts 1:8-12KJV
8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.
Are the words highlighted in red below, a future literal event, that will be witnessed by humans on this earth?
Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
I've already said that Jesus may make a future return to the earth, all I'm saying is that the verses you are using to prove it are not talking about that future return to earth. If he is making a future return, I haven't seen those verses in the bible yet.
Your word "Shell Game" has fooled nobody!
Jw's and Mormons are more credible in their biblical eschatology.
You deny a future second coming of Jesus Christ is seen in the Holy bible
"Full Preterism" is 100% Heresy!
It's a literal event that happened when Christ rose from the dead. Why are you having such a hard time accepting that Jesus returned from the dead with ALL power and glory?
"Full Preterism" is 100% Heresy!
You openly claim Matthew 24:30 was "Fulfilled" in the resurrection of Jesus Christ, you openly deny this is a future event.
You deny a future second coming of Jesus Christ is seen in the Holy bible
"Full Preterism" is 100% Heresy!
Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
I get your point you don't have to keep saying it over and over... we disagree no big deal.
Ephesians 5:6-11KJV
6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth
10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
so it sounds like we agree that this passage refers to physical Israel, not spiritual Israel
Romans 11:25 For I don't desire you to be ignorant, brothers, of this mystery, so that you won't be wise in your own conceits, that a partial hardening has happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and so all Israel will be saved. Even as it is written, "There will come out of Zion the Deliverer, and he will turn away ungodliness from Jacob. 27 This is my covenant to them, when I will take away their sins." 28 Concerning the Good News, they are enemies for your sake. But concerning the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sake.
in view of that, it sounds to me like God still has plans for physical Israel.
How does it look to you?
Well, I think he has plans for every nation on earth so that includes physical Israel. By no means has He rejected them but he has rejected no nation on earth. They no longer possess the Kingdom of GOd but that does not follow that He has rejected them. How is that? Is that OK?
In the future 2/3 will die in Israel, how does that look to you?
Zechariah 13:7-9KJV
7 Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the Lord of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.
8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.
And don't stop there
29 for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
30 For just as you once were disobedient to God, but now have been shown mercy because of their disobedience,
31 so these also now have been disobedient, that because of the mercy shown to you they also may now be shown mercy.
32 For God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may show mercy to all.
I'm trying to rescue you from that wrath but you want hear it.Ephesians 5:6-11KJV
6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth
10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
(Amo 8:2) And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.
Just throwing that out there in case you weren't aware.
