The Reason You are Told that God No Longer Speaks.

[Dave-L]

What scripture Dave. You didn't provide any. In all fairness, you don't accept scripture alone in the book of Revelation.

I set you up to prove me wrong. I'm right until that happens. Now go for it.

 

[Blain]

You must prove me wrong or be found lying.

Not gonna lie that was funny because you have been proven wrong time and time again and not once have you proven yourself right. I have been patient with you and tried to reason with you but clearly all you care about is your own view and for some reason think yourself learned when in fact you are ignorant to the truth and you need to stop being rude and insulting others as well unless you wish to prove my point in your ignorance.
Only a child insults and boasts their truth without any regard to what anyone else says and if your not careful and more respectful to others you may get banned people have been banned for less than that

 

[Dave-L]

The word of God did You are wrong On:

1. your understanding of the gifts of the Holy Spirit are not for today proven in 1cor chapter 12 -14
2. You are wrong the gifts have ceased no scriptures you have provided to support that claim
3. you are wrong in demanding a sign to prove with Jesus said would happen by faith. You have acted more like a Pharisees
4. you are wrong for mocking and scoffing the gifts of the Holy Spirit
5. you are wrong for having a bias that judges all under the actions of a few.

You still have not shown where the gifts came in another way than through the two outpourings or through an apostle's hands.

 

[DorothyMae]

If you have the gifts, prove it. Be honest handling the word of God.

You know, the test of the degree of the Holy Spirit in a person is mainly one of character in my view.

Those in the Bible most filled with the Holy Spirit were of remarkable character. They did more than they talked.

 

[Dave-L]

Not gonna lie that was funny because you have been proven wrong time and time again and not once have you proven yourself right. I have been patient with you and tried to reason with you but clearly all you care about is your own view and for some reason think yourself learned when in fact you are ignorant to the truth and you need to stop being rude and insulting others as well unless you wish to prove my point in your ignorance.
Only a child insults and boasts their truth without any regard to what anyone else says and if your not careful and more respectful to others you may get banned people have been banned for less than that

We are at an impasse resulting in you're wrong and I'm right unless you can prove me wrong with scripture.

 

[CS1]

If you have the gifts, prove it. Be honest handling the word of God.

I am not a performer for one who is perverted like Simon the sorcerer what next you are going to want to buy the gift? What shame and foolish demand.

 

[Dave-L]

I am not a performer for one who is perverted like Simon the sorcerer what next you are going to want to buy the gift? What shame and foolish demand.

Let's see em. Are we all hat and no cattle here?

 

[tourist]

I set you up to prove me wrong. I'm right until that happens. Now go for it.

Here's the thing Dave and I mean this sincerely. I have no desire to prove you wrong. Personally, I would rather be happy than to prove myself to be right at the expense of hurting someone else. That is a price that is too high for me to pay.

 

[CS1]

You still have not shown where the gifts came in another way than through the two outpourings or through an apostle's hands.

you have not completely read the Book of Acts The house Cornelious debunked that understanding you have but pride has blinded you.

 

[CS1]

Let's see em. Are we all hat and no cattle here?

No, we are two people, one who believes that God still does what HE says HE will do. and the OTHER WHO DEMANDs God performs for HIM to believe. a hat and cattle you can have the Bible and the word of God is what you must prove wrong not me .

 

[DorothyMae]

Dave-L,

So you know, I have heard that still small voice since childhood. He mostly tells me what He wanted and still wants me to do that is doing justly to others, loving mercy when they fail to do justly by me and to walk humbly with Him. Not everyone who claims to hear Him shows off, demonstrates poor judgement and otherwise ignores scripture and love of God and man.

 

[tourist]

Dave-L,

So you know, I have heard that still small voice since childhood. He mostly tells me what He wanted and still wants me to do that is doing justly to others, loving mercy when they fail to do justly by me and to walk humbly with Him. Not everyone who claims to hear Him shows off, demonstrates poor judgement and otherwise ignores scripture and love of God and man.

A well spoken response written with words from your heart.

 

[Blain]

We are at an impasse resulting in you're wrong and I'm right unless you can prove me wrong with scripture.

Many already have you just won't listen

 

[1956Robin]

Dear Dave,

When the Holy Spirit comforts you by bringing scripture to you that IS God communicating to you. That is His job, Jesus left and sent Him.
He directs us to the answer and i would say the majority of the time it is in the Bible but its not our brilliant minds knowing automatically. It His small, still voice.

If it was something specifically personal He will speak. Why would He stop communicating with beloved children?

 

[DorothyMae]

Dear Dave,

When the Holy Spirit comforts you by bringing scripture to you that IS God communicating to you. That is His job, Jesus left and sent Him.
He directs us to the answer and i would say the majority of the time it is in the Bible but its not our brilliant minds knowing automatically. It His small, still voice.

If it was something specifically personal He will speak. Why would He stop communicating with beloved children?

I have been in meetings where people who attended a “school of the prophets” gave a “Word” and the Holy Spirit within me as well as my mind knew it was totally “flesh,” that is was designed to flatter the recipient and bolster the giver of the word’s image to the group. It wasn’t God at all but human ego talking.

And everyone thought they weren’t supposed to evaluate it because the speaker of the “word” claimed it was God. Those “schools” didn’t teach them that if you claim you got a word from God, the others are actually REQUIRED to judge it. If you give an opinion they are not. That’s how ignorant believers desiring to move in spiritual gifts are. They don’t seem to have any discernment as to what is God, what is the enemy and what is prideful self.

So I understand a reluctance to accept any of it. God does speak to me and often enough but I very rarely tell others unless it’s some insight that will benefit them and even then I don’t share my source unless asked. If it’s God it will have His obvious mark of insight so there’s no need to claim authority and I have to be on guard against the pride of my own heart constantly.

So I’ve seen modern abuses and know the real deal. If a person is filled with the Holy Spirit there will be the fruit of his working in their CHARACTER, brothers and sisters, not particularly what they claim is happening.

 

[DorothyMae]

David was a Prophet. To day's strange voices in the head bunch are not.

I suppose this means you have not met a real one. That there is counterfeit money does not mean real money does not exist. There are real prophets but I admit the real ones are few and far between the many false ones claiming the title and enjoying the admiration of men. They skipped the seasons of God doing the heavy preparation but went right to the speaking part without the character God requires.

 

[DorothyMae]

Paul was addressing spiritual gifts. The spiritual gift of tongues that is to be interpreted for the edification of the church body differs from tongues that come forth when one is infilled with the Holy Ghost.

Where in scripture do you get this idea?

Upon review of the following scriptures (Acts 2:1-4, 8:12-17, 10:44-48, 19:1-6) it becomes clear that the flow of tongues was the evidence of the infilling of the Holy Ghost. There is no evidence that there was a need for interpretation of a message for bystanders. It was the way one knew they received the Holy Ghost into their body.

Those scriptures do not say that the flow of tongues were the evidence of the infilling of the Holy Spirit. As I said, it is the most easily faked of the giftings and actually probably the only one that can be faked.

Notice Peter's clarification that the pouring forth of the Holy Ghost into people caused them to speak in tongues on the Day of Pentecost when the church was born:
"Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear." Acts 2:33

Does not mean that this is what always happens. You assume it is. Also, notice that others understood in their own languages. This never happens with the pentecostals all start talking "in tongues."

Peter's words make it clear that the promised gift of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues is available to as many as the Lord shall call. The promise was not exclusive to the Jewish people as many profess:
"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call." Acts 2:38

Notice Peter does not even mention the gift of tongues. You instert that into the scripture that is not there.

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

Let's see em.

The Bible teach us that a wicked and adulterous generation is looking for sign and wonders. I think I am starting to understand now.....

 

[Dave-L]

The Bible teach us that a wicked and adulterous generation is looking for sign and wonders. I think I am starting to understand now.....

If you had one gift, you would use it in love for others. But you only pass by saying, yep the Lord still heals today.

 

[Dave-L]

I suppose this means you have not met a real one. That there is counterfeit money does not mean real money does not exist. There are real prophets but I admit the real ones are few and far between the many false ones claiming the title and enjoying the admiration of men. They skipped the seasons of God doing the heavy preparation but went right to the speaking part without the character God requires.

All prophets are false since the gifts expired. You can see them drop off in the Epistles.