1 kings 13

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After reading this chapter, I was shook up. The man of G_d, believed the lie from a prophet! He disobeyed The Lord’s instruction and was put to death!...
what really struck me, the lion didn’t eat the man, or the donkey, or the others who found the dead man, but just sat there.
it was on a mission and was being obedient to The Lord.
We should not follow, believe or even tolerate liars. 😐
 
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The other striking thing about this particular event is that the LORD spoke to the man through the prophet that lied to him already to rebuke him for disobeying!

Goes to show; do not trust someone who says they are of God and then proceeds to give you instruction contrary to God's word.
 
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If the prophet was lying then he wasn't a prophet at all. A prophet is one that speaks accurately what God has told him to say at a given time, place, and situation.
 
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hmm interesting story, scripture says the old prophet lied does God care that the old prophet lied to him tricked him?

And still came upon the old prophet to speak to the man of God. that’s a bit of a head scratcher.

What happened to the old prophet that lied was he punished for lying
 
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When one has clear and measurable instructions from God like don’t eat on the way, then don’t let any man, even a prophet, tell you otherwise. Secondly, even real prophets are still people and can be tempted to claim they have a “word” when they don’t but are self—seeking at that point in time. Prophets are not infallible.

Always test what any “prophets” say.
 
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JamOn said:
hmm interesting story, scripture says the old prophet lied does God care that the old prophet lied to him tricked him?

And still came upon the old prophet to speak to the man of God. that’s a bit of a head scratcher.

What happened to the old prophet that lied was he punished for lying
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No, he lived! 😮 then asked for his bones to be buried next to man! (The man who accurately predicted Josiah and altar 3 centuries earlier)
Note that josiah left this particular grave alone when he had all the others burned up...but the lion! Why didn’t it eat the donkey?!! What donkey would stand anywhere near a lion? This all freaks me out
 
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DorothyMae said:
When one has clear and measurable instructions from God like don’t eat on the way, then don’t let any man, even a prophet, tell you otherwise. Secondly, even real prophets are still people and can be tempted to claim they have a “word” when they don’t but are self—seeking at that point in time. Prophets are not infallible.

Always test what any “prophets” say.
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Never met a prophet 😐
 
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Matthew Henry said:

Verses 11-22
The man of God had honestly and resolutely refused the king's invitation, though he promised him a reward; yet he was over-persuaded by an old prophet to come back with him, and dine in Beth-el, contrary to the command given him. Here we find how dearly his dinner cost him. Observe with wonder,

I. The old prophet's wickedness. I cannot but call him a false prophet and a bad man, it being much easier to believe that from one of such a bad character should be extorted a confirmation of what the man of God said (as we find, 1 Kings 13:32) than that a true prophet, and a good man, should tell such a deliberate lie as he did, and father it upon God. A good tree could never bring forth such corrupt fruit. Perhaps he was trained up among the sons of the prophets, in one of Samuel's colleges not far off, whence he retained the name of a prophet, but, growing worldly and profane, the spirit of prophecy had departed from him.

If he had been a good prophet he would have reproved Jeroboam's idolatry, and not have suffered his sons to attend his altars, as, it should seem, they did. Now, 1. Whether he had any good design in fetching back the man of God is not certain. One may hope that he did it in compassion to him, concluding he wanted refreshment, and out of a desire to be better acquainted with him and more fully to understand his errand than he could from the report of his sons; yet his sons having told him all that passed, and particularly that the prophet was forbidden to eat or drink there, which he had openly told Jeroboam, I suppose it was done with a bad design, to draw him into a snare, and so to expose him; for false prophets have ever been the worst enemies to the true prophets, usually aiming to destroy them, but sometimes, as here, to debauch them and draw them from their duty.

Thus they gave the Nazarites wine to drink (Amos 2:12), that they might glory in their fall. But, 2. It is certain that he took a very bad method to bring him back. When the man of God had told him, “I may not, and therefore I will not, return to eat bread with thee” (his resolutions concurring with the divine command, 1 Kings 13:16, 1 Kings 13:17), he wickedly pretended that he had an order from heaven to fetch him back. He imposed upon him by asserting his quondam character as a prophet:

I am a prophet also as thou art; he pretended he had a vision of an angel that sent him on this errand. But it was all a lie; it was a banter upon prophecy, and profane in the highest degree. When this old prophet is spoken of (2 Kings 23:18) he is called the prophet that came out of Samaria, whereas there was no such place as Samaria till long after, 1 Kings 16:24. Therefore I take it he is so called there, though he was of Beth-el, because he was like those who were afterwards the prophets of Samaria, who caused God's people Israel to err, Jeremiah 23:13.

Here:

1 Kings 13 Commentary - Matthew Henry's Complete Commentary ...
 
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Reformyourself said:
No, he lived! 😮 then asked for his bones to be buried next to man! (The man who accurately predicted Josiah and altar 3 centuries earlier)
Note that josiah left this particular grave alone when he had all the others burned up...but the lion! Why didn’t it eat the donkey?!! What donkey would stand anywhere near a lion? This all freaks me out
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And what lion would not eat a donkey? the man was not to be buried near his fathers, the old prophet place the bones in his own tomb and his bones be buried next to him, hmm father of who old what.
 
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JamOn said:
And what lion would not eat a donkey? the man was not to be buried near his fathers, the old prophet place the bones in his own tomb and his bones be buried next to him, hmm father of who old what.
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What ?? 🥴
 
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Reformyourself said:
Just saying...it’s just that I’ve met a few ‘prophetesses & prophets’ except they weren’t as it turned out, so I’m extremely wary now 😐
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Some churches are ‘a bag full of cats’ 😂
 
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If the prophet was lying then he wasn't a prophet at all. A prophet is one that speaks accurately what God has told him to say at a given time, place, and situation.
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Like Anna, she wasn’t referred to as the old prophetess but the prophetess who was old.
 
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