Riots in Minneapolis

[Desdichado]

This is, by far, the best article I've read on the rash of riots. I don't think it goes far enough in explaining why it is an international phenomenon.

Heather Mac Donald is one of the sharpest minds around. If only she came to her senses on the social issues.

 

[JamOn]

This is, by far, the best article I've read on the rash of riots. I don't think it goes far enough in explaining why it is an international phenomenon.

Heather Mac Donald is one of the sharpest minds around. If only she came to her senses on the social issues.

what are the real social issues?

 

[Desdichado]

That's precisely the point. Police brutality spans the most prevalent racial groups in the United States (Black, White, and Latino). The problem is not one of particular "Social Justice", but of government growth and social atomization.

If families and, subsequently, communities deteriorate, order will be outsourced to police. A police who are, often by necessity, not from the communities they police, employing military-grade equipment. The more the police militarize, the more people, right and left, black and white, will see it as a kind of military occupation, interpreted through their respective ideological lenses.

America has to situate herself again towards God. Only He can turn vandals into the noble Israelites who, with Nehemiah, rebuilt their wall, redressed injustice, and repented of their sins.

Hmm I’m having a zero chance of finding any video on a black police officer beating up a white citizen, or any articles on google search on anything remotely similar like it has never happened, I’m to believe that it doesn’t ever or had happen, I find that a little weird, because I know it has happened.

 

[Desdichado]

Interesting way to ask the question. I would like to see where you are going with it.

She's more liberal on gay marriage and abortion.

what are the real social issues?

 

[DorothyMae]

I am only surprised that Minnesota learned nothing from the riots in LA after a caucasian policeman assualted an afro-american man, Rodney King. A living example of the not learning the lessons history teaches so they are repeated.

 

[JamOn]

That's precisely the point. Police brutality spans the most prevalent racial groups in the United States (Black, White, and Latino). The problem is not one of particular "Social Justice", but of government growth and social atomization.

If families and, subsequently, communities deteriorate, order will be outsourced to police. A police who are, often by necessity, not from the communities they police, employing military-grade equipment. The more the police militarize, the more people, right and left, black and white, will see it as a kind of military occupation, interpreted through their respective ideological lenses.

America has to situate herself again towards God. Only He can turn vandals into the noble Israelites who, with Nehemiah, rebuilt their wall, redressed injustice, and repented of their sins.

thanks for that link I had not heard about some of the things mentioned the two that raised a eyebrow was these below I’ll look into these as facts but if it is that is I don’t know what’s to say bazaar.

these clips from that link you posted.

(((( The attacks on local law enforcement were already happening out of sight of TV cameras before the most photogenic scenes of arson and the stomping of squad cars started showing up on network and cable news. On Tuesday, May 26, and Wednesday, May 27, Chicago residents surrounded and threw bottles at Chicago Police Department officers trying to arrest gun suspects. One suspect was the likely perpetrator of a shooting that had just hit a five-year-old girl and two teenage boys. The other had just thrown his gun under a car; the cop-haters tried to free him from the squad car. No surprise that Saturday night, downtown Chicago was plundered. )))))

(((( Facts don’t matter to the academic victimology narrative. Far from destroying the black body, whites are the overwhelming target of interracial violence. Between 2012 and 2015, blacks committed 85.5 percent of all black-white interracial violent victimizations (excluding interracial homicide, which is also disproportionately black-on-white). That works out to 540,360 felonious assaults on whites. Whites committed 14.4 percent of all interracial violent victimization, or 91,470 felonious assaults on blacks. Blacks are less than 13 percent of the national population. ))))

 

[Desdichado]

History also teaches that torching a Wendy's is an ineffective way to establish justice.

Now, appealing to a lesser magistrate to break ties with Britain, levy a competent army, and secure alliances and loans from foreign powers. Yes.

I am only surprised that Minnesota learned nothing from the riots in LA after a caucasian policeman assualted an afro-american man, Rodney King. A living example of the not learning the lessons history teaches so they are repeated.

 

[JamOn]

I am only surprised that Minnesota learned nothing from the riots in LA after a caucasian policeman assualted an afro-american man, Rodney King. A living example of the not learning the lessons history teaches so they are repeated.

There was four policemen involved two Caucasian, one Asain, the other not sure what’s your point?

hmm Afro really better to spell it out African

 

[Desdichado]

Well for point one, it appears to be a report. Feel free to verify the facts through other reports. I trust Mac Donald enough not to.

The second paragraph relies on Bureau of Justice Statistics.

thanks for that link I had not heard about some of the things mentioned the two that raised a eyebrow was these below I’ll look into these as facts but if it is that is I don’t know what’s to say bazaar.

these clips from that link you posted.

(((( The attacks on local law enforcement were already happening out of sight of TV cameras before the most photogenic scenes of arson and the stomping of squad cars started showing up on network and cable news. On Tuesday, May 26, and Wednesday, May 27, Chicago residents surrounded and threw bottles at Chicago Police Department officers trying to arrest gun suspects. One suspect was the likely perpetrator of a shooting that had just hit a five-year-old girl and two teenage boys. The other had just thrown his gun under a car; the cop-haters tried to free him from the squad car. No surprise that Saturday night, downtown Chicago was plundered. )))))

(((( Facts don’t matter to the academic victimology narrative. Far from destroying the black body, whites are the overwhelming target of interracial violence. Between 2012 and 2015, blacks committed 85.5 percent of all black-white interracial violent victimizations (excluding interracial homicide, which is also disproportionately black-on-white). That works out to 540,360 felonious assaults on whites. Whites committed 14.4 percent of all interracial violent victimization, or 91,470 felonious assaults on blacks. Blacks are less than 13 percent of the national population. ))))

 

[JamOn]

Hmm I’ve heard illegal drugs sales are way done, cocaine heroine these things supposedly are sneaked in underground stuff you know war on drugs stuff, but why would a lock down have a more effect on the sale of illegal drugs than law enforcement.

 

[DorothyMae]

There was four policemen involved two Caucasian, one Asain, the other not sure what’s your point?

hmm Afro really better to spell it out African

The response from the authorites led to riots in LA in the Rodney King incident.

 

[JamOn]

The response from the authorites led to riots in LA in the Rodney King incident.

Do you think it was justified to pull reginald Denny from his truck and beat him almost to death that was just one that was mentioned by name but man some people who had nothing to do with that lost their life I couldn’t watch some of those, the baby in the car, man that was complete social breakdown and insane evil at its work.

 

[JamOn]

Well for point one, it appears to be a report. Feel free to verify the facts through other reports. I trust Mac Donald enough not to.

The second paragraph relies on Bureau of Justice Statistics.

Those are facts, and that’s astonishing

 

[JamOn]

The L.A riots turned into a evil protest against good, something that started as just turned into disgrace.

and what is happening now seems to be following suit.

 

[JamOn]

Those are facts, and that’s astonishing

Hmm I’ll have to recant my statement at least the first part, I’ve found the place the author of the link got info but I didn’t see the same numbers, but what it did see is mainly among whites and blacks the vast majority of the time the assault was of the same race.

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((( During 2012-15, U.S. residents experienced 5.8 million violent victimizations per year (table 1). About 3.7 million of these violent victimizations were committed against white victims.3 Among white victims, a higher percentage of victimizations were committed by white offenders (57%) than offenders of any other race. White victims perceived the offender to be black in 15% of violent victimizations and Hispanic in 11%.4

Of the 850,720 victimizations committed against black victims, a higher percentage involved black offenders (63%) than offenders of any other race. Black victims perceived the offender to be white in 11% of violent victimizations and Hispanic in nearly 7%.

Fewer than half (40%) of violent victimizations committed against a Hispanic victim were committed by a Hispanic offender. However, the percentage committed by a Hispanic offender was higher than any racial category. An equal percentage of victimizations committed against a Hispanic victim was committed by a white or black offender
(20% each).))))

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rhovo1215.pdf

Hmm who are the real victims

 

[JamOn]

So the Hispanic population is being victimized by both white and black people at 20% each more than against each other or among each other in the range of 5% above the closest perceived attacker, hmm

wouldn’t that be nice to mentioned on the news

 

[JamOn]

The response from the authorites led to riots in LA in the Rodney King incident.

On the link I posted of the gov report on victimization between 1993 and 2015 there has been a dramatic reduction on race victimization. i think the people has learned from it yet there’s riots did people all of a sudden forget about victimization is at its lowest since the L.A riots.

Page 4 has a graph that shows the reduction in victimization.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rhovo1215.pdf

 

[Silverwings]

George Soros add on Craigslist

 

[Susanna]

The thing is you can not say 100% it was racism that fueled what the officer did, it may appear like it is because it was white police officer on top of a black man and that is people pushing a racial issue and that doesn’t automatically mean racism. There’s been reports the cop knew Mr. Floyd and that is highly suspect that it was some kind of beef. and second that can happen to anyone any race.

has the former police officer said he is racist or are there reports he was or are people just automatically pinning that title on him instigating that this tragic incident was purely race driven.

So you think this is about this one case only? This is part of an everlasting story of structural racism in this country. Feel free to stay oblivious of it, but then you’re part of the problem.

 

[Susanna]

You too wanting to make it about race, that is plain ugly, got any information the man was a racist? if so then I might change my tune until you show it was about a persons race you don’t have a leg to stand on.

You’re still insisting on displaying your ignorance on this matter?

The rhetorical technique you’re using is quite recognizable. Distinguish the case and completely isolate it from the chain of events that lead to it. Job well done...