The absurdity and heresy of Preterism
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- The Second Temple was destroyed by the Romans on the same date, Tisha B'Av, in 70 AD. Rome's destruction of the Temple began in 66 AD, when Roman Emperor Nero appointed General Vespasian to put down a revolt in Judea. Almost immediately, Rome experienced chaos.
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Vespasian is Titus' daddy!
Correct. (Glad we can agree on one point, anyway! Woohoo!)
So where Matt24:15 says, "Therefore when ye shall see [the AOD]...," the "ye" here is a "proleptic 'you/ye'," meaning, "those in the future, OF THE SAME CATEGORY"... and in this context, that means, "THOSE TO WHOM the promised and prophesied earthly Millennial Kingdom" was promised. (The ID of which is not [pertaining to]"the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" / US.
[ppl have a bad habit of reading themselves/'the Church which is His body' INTO every passage they read--THIS passage/context is not speaking of it/this])
So where Matt24:15 says, "Therefore when ye shall see [the AOD]...," the "ye" here is a "proleptic 'you/ye'," meaning, "those in the future, OF THE SAME CATEGORY"... and in this context, that means, "THOSE TO WHOM the promised and prophesied earthly Millennial Kingdom" was promised. (The ID of which is not [pertaining to]"the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" / US.
[ppl have a bad habit of reading themselves/'the Church which is His body' INTO every passage they read--THIS passage/context is not speaking of it/this])
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You seem to be mis-reading my post.
I've stated throughout this thread that the AOD is "far-future" to when written (and yet future to our present day!).
It was ONLY the 70ad events (spelled out in Lk21:12-24 ONLY) that occurred in the "near-future".
I'm pointing out the reasons for the DISTINCTIONS (throughout this thread). One *near*; the other *far-future* (and *future* even to "our Rapture").
I've stated throughout this thread that the AOD is "far-future" to when written (and yet future to our present day!).
It was ONLY the 70ad events (spelled out in Lk21:12-24 ONLY) that occurred in the "near-future".
I'm pointing out the reasons for the DISTINCTIONS (throughout this thread). One *near*; the other *far-future* (and *future* even to "our Rapture").
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Sorry, my Post #720 (you quoted) was aimed at Neb's Post #715 (not your intervening posts, which it may APPEAR I was addressing simply b/c I typed slowly, and several posts popped up b/f I was finished. LOL).
He had said:
My post #720 was speaking to THAT.
(Dan9:26 "desolaTIONS are determined")
He had said:
My post #720 was speaking to THAT.
(Dan9:26 "desolaTIONS are determined")
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I will definitely research that.
I was just wanting to show if Jesus was referring to "All Nations" hated the Jews in 67-70 AD then more than just Rome would have attacked.
And why I copied/pasted who are currently persecuting Believers today because they fit the bill to what Jesus was speaking about in verse 9.
My post towards yours can therefore be sent to his hahahahahahahaha
Member Neb said: This is 7 year Roman-Jewish War. 70AD is just the beginnings of the tribulation.
The Romans made desolate Jerusalum, destroying the temple and ending sacrifices.
Fits like hand to glove. It is even more clear when looking at Luke 21:20 where Jesus refers to surrounding armies which are the roman armies, and that the desolation is a reference to Daniel 9:27
Luke 21:20
When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near.
Member Neb said: This is 7 year Roman-Jewish War. 70AD is just the beginnings of the tribulation.
The Romans made desolate Jerusalum, destroying the temple and ending sacrifices.
Fits like hand to glove. It is even more clear when looking at Luke 21:20 where Jesus refers to surrounding armies which are the roman armies, and that the desolation is a reference to Daniel 9:27
Luke 21:20
When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near.
No worries Brother, it happens
I jumped the gun lol
I jumped the gun lol
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For me, when I read a very good written book and get to the end, I find it less satisfying knowing there is nothing more left.
I cannot see how a preterist believes the Bible is over and complete and still lives for God.
If the Bible was completed and the prophecies were fulfilled, there would be no reason to serve God because God is done with humanity.
I am extremely thankful for the Church Fathers who have proven John was placed by Domitian in Patmos in 94 AD where he wrote Revelations, was released after Domitian died, and served in Ephesus till 100 AD.
Because that proves the Bible was not finished and still had much more to be fulfilled, and God still had much more left to do with humanity!
I cannot see how a preterist believes the Bible is over and complete and still lives for God.
If the Bible was completed and the prophecies were fulfilled, there would be no reason to serve God because God is done with humanity.
I am extremely thankful for the Church Fathers who have proven John was placed by Domitian in Patmos in 94 AD where he wrote Revelations, was released after Domitian died, and served in Ephesus till 100 AD.
Because that proves the Bible was not finished and still had much more to be fulfilled, and God still had much more left to do with humanity!
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I know what lies ahead for me as a Believer is going to be pure hell until I die, or God has other plans for me. That's what makes it worth it, for me, because God is not finished yet. Even if that means I will suffer like never before, at least it is God bringing me through this by my side the entire time.
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