Are creeds, confessions, and theological language important?

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Grandpa

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What you cited is not the Nicene Creed. It is the Apostles Creed.

Nicene Creed pledges allegiance and devotion to the Roman Catholic Church (its a pledge of allegiance and devotion to the catholic and apostolic[succession])

It mentions about baptism for the forgiveness of sins, but doesn't confess we repented of our sins and that forgiveness of sins was obtained.

Baptism is about more than the washing of sins, its about dying with Christ and being born again with Him.

Nicene Creed doesn't mention about being born again of Spirit. It merely talks about belief in the existence of the Spirit.

Nicene Creed is a man-made tradition. Do not recite it, Follow God!!!
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I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.

I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,

and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
he suffered death and was buried,
and rose again on the third day
in accordance with the Scriptures.
He ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead
and his kingdom will have no end.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.

I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins
and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come. Amen
I like the Nicene creed better.

Baptism is not what forgives sins. Forgiveness of sins must come from the One sinned against.

God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God??? Why not just say you believe in the divinity of Christ? It is more direct and straightforward. What is all that light from light stuff?
 
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People can be wrong for a really long time.

Look at the Pharisees and the RCC.

In fact, the creeds themselves are kind of vague and could probably be interpreted in different, contradictory ways.

But I think its good for a church to state what they believe in simple, straightforward ways.
 

Grandpa

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For some reason, I was thinking that was the Partridge Family at first...

Then the Brady Bunch got blended in as well. Where is Greg? I thought I saw Peter. But Peter wasn't in the Partridge Family...


Were you purposely messing with my head? :ROFL::ROFL:
 

Prycejosh1987

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Question 1. Who made you?
Answer. God

Question 2. What else did God make?
Answer. God made all things.

Question 3. Why did God make you and all things?
Answer. For his own glory.
I would not say God made all things because he didnt create anything evil, the devil brought those things into existence. God has a good nature and is always good.
 

UnitedWithChrist

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I would not say God made all things because he didnt create anything evil, the devil brought those things into existence. God has a good nature and is always good.
I wouldn't define evil as a "thing". He created beings that became evil though, including Satan, demons, and humans. He always knew they would rebel against him, though, due to his exhaustive foreknowledge.