"Not by works" - false!
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This deliberately go on sinning after we have received knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice that will cover these sins" verse has been taken out of context and misinterpreted for I don't know how long.
You need to read this short response addressing your misunderstanding, it mainly addresses the James verse that Im sure you also love to tout:
https://www.bible-truth.org/James2-24.html
You need to read this short response addressing your misunderstanding, it mainly addresses the James verse that Im sure you also love to tout:
https://www.bible-truth.org/James2-24.html
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No, I have not.
I wish to be guided by others. Then, like a good Berean see if the Bible can validate.
Prov 11:14 Without counsels do a people fall, And deliverance [is] in a multitude of counsellors.
The bible speaks of the gift of teaching given to some ... thus implying the usefulness of those teachers. For example, I don't speak Greek or Hebrew so I depend exclusively on others to do that for me.
Granted, one should study and be skeptical.
You are outnumbered in this debate. I give you props for standing by your beliefs.
I wish to be guided by others. Then, like a good Berean see if the Bible can validate.
Prov 11:14 Without counsels do a people fall, And deliverance [is] in a multitude of counsellors.
The bible speaks of the gift of teaching given to some ... thus implying the usefulness of those teachers. For example, I don't speak Greek or Hebrew so I depend exclusively on others to do that for me.
Granted, one should study and be skeptical.
You are outnumbered in this debate. I give you props for standing by your beliefs.
I do not mind being outnumbered since the truth of the Bible is not determined by casting a vote.
I don't mind being guided by others.
I would however warn against relying on others to understand the Bible.
For instance, in trying to show me that my understanding of Hebrews is incorrect, you did not provide Biblical evidence, but the (actually inconclusive) opinions of others.
I would warn against such an approach.
I don't mind being guided by others.
I would however warn against relying on others to understand the Bible.
For instance, in trying to show me that my understanding of Hebrews is incorrect, you did not provide Biblical evidence, but the (actually inconclusive) opinions of others.
I would warn against such an approach.
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None of us should be against eachother, nor do I believe that any of us are 
I just believe that, along with believing in Christ, we should keep God's commandments.
For some reason some people seem to have been offended by me saying this, as if they think Christians cannot sin, or that Christians can behave as they please.
I just believe that, along with believing in Christ, we should keep God's commandments.
For some reason some people seem to have been offended by me saying this, as if they think Christians cannot sin, or that Christians can behave as they please.
Have you stopped sinning yet?
You have not clarified how you define 'we deliberately/knowingly continue in sin" means in regard to "Jesus' sacrifice will NOT cover these sins". Any particular sins, any number of times, must it be knowingly ???? Please quantify.
My belief: We are saved by the gift of faith. Regeneration causes me to desire to obey God. This obedience is imperfect as I am still in the flesh (have a sin nature). All Christians will show 'some evidence' of their obedience ("SOME EVIDENCE" I cannot define quantitatively).
Christians are justified to God by faith alone according to Paul. Christians are justified in men's eyes by obedience according to James.
You have not clarified how you define 'we deliberately/knowingly continue in sin" means in regard to "Jesus' sacrifice will NOT cover these sins". Any particular sins, any number of times, must it be knowingly ???? Please quantify.
My belief: We are saved by the gift of faith. Regeneration causes me to desire to obey God. This obedience is imperfect as I am still in the flesh (have a sin nature). All Christians will show 'some evidence' of their obedience ("SOME EVIDENCE" I cannot define quantitatively).
Christians are justified to God by faith alone according to Paul. Christians are justified in men's eyes by obedience according to James.
None of us should be against eachother, nor do I believe that any of us are
I just believe that, along with believing in Christ, we should keep God's commandments.
For some reason some people seem to have been offended by me saying this, as if they think Christians cannot sin, or that Christians can behave as they please.
I just believe that, along with believing in Christ, we should keep God's commandments.
For some reason some people seem to have been offended by me saying this, as if they think Christians cannot sin, or that Christians can behave as they please.
None of us should be against eachother, nor do I believe that any of us are
I just believe that, along with believing in Christ, we should keep God's commandments.
For some reason some people seem to have been offended by me saying this, as if they think Christians cannot sin, or that Christians can behave as they please.
I just believe that, along with believing in Christ, we should keep God's commandments.
For some reason some people seem to have been offended by me saying this, as if they think Christians cannot sin, or that Christians can behave as they please.
I was trying to show you that your understanding is questionable. I agree, I did not prove it. I can't prove you wrong as
You have not clarified how you define 'we deliberately/knowingly continue in sin" means in regard to "Jesus' sacrifice will NOT cover these sins". Any particular sins, any number of times, must it be knowingly ???? Please quantify.
So, I can't use scripture to disprove a ambiguous statement. With clarification, I may even agree with you.
You have not clarified how you define 'we deliberately/knowingly continue in sin" means in regard to "Jesus' sacrifice will NOT cover these sins". Any particular sins, any number of times, must it be knowingly ???? Please quantify.
So, I can't use scripture to disprove a ambiguous statement. With clarification, I may even agree with you.