How much of good works?
Do you reserve the right to define the quantity of good works which proves one has saving faith?
Are you sinless? You need to clarify on these.
THE LIE IN LORDSHIP SALVATION THEORY
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Do you reserve the right to define the quantity of good works which proves one has saving faith?
Are you sinless? You need to clarify on these.
I agree with you that was what James was literally saying. There is no escaping his meaning there.
The difference is that you regard James as writing to you, but I believe I am not of the 12 tribes. So we can agree to disagree on the audience.
So are you sinless? What happens to your evidence for saving faith if you do evil works?
Hello Sudakar, how do our works "determine whether we are saved or not"?
Thanks!
~Deut
So are you sinless? What happens to your evidence for saving faith if you do evil works?
You are atoned for by grace not by your works. If your good works is evidence of your saving faith, then your evil works must be an evidence of your lack of saving faith!!
Does a living faith do evil works?
2 Corinthians 11:17: "In this self-confident boasting I am not talking as the Lord would, but as a fool".
Do Bible writers always testify to the Lord's grace?
No I’m not sinless. Are you sinless? If not, you’re not obeying Matthew 5:48. Again, are you sinless?
Those who trust in their works need to cut off. Not those who trust in grace to show evidence of their saving faith.
Sudakar is thoroughly confused about this whole matter. And even after being shown the truth, he prefers to be confused.
So why do you trust your love for the Lord which cannot make you obey Mathew 5:48, to show evidence of your saving faith?
James 2:10 "For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it."
When you disobey mathew 5:48, your good works amounts to zero. Only Christ has done 100% good works. All christians have done zero. So except grace you have zero evidence of saving faith.
Calvin's Commentary on the Bible
17.What I speak, I speak not after the Lord His disposition, it is true, had an eye to God, but the outward appearance (838) might seem unsuitable to a servant of the Lord. At the same time, the things that Paul confesses respecting himself, he, on the other hand, condemns in the false Apostles. (839) For it was not his intention to praise himself, but simply to contrast himself with them, with the view of humbling them. (840) Hence he transfers to his own person what belonged to them, that he may thus open the eyes of the Corinthians. What I have rendered boldness, is in the Greek ὑπόστασις , as to the meaning of which term we have spoken in the ninth chapter. (2 Corinthians 9:4.) Subject-matter (841) or substance, unquestionably, would not be at all suitable here. (842)
None is sinless. What happens to your evidence for saving faith if you do evil works?
What happens to you when you do evil? You keep pointing the finger at me, but there’s three pointing right back at you.