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When Peter stepped out on the water he had faith when he began to sink he lost faith.
When Peter claimed he would die with the Lord he had faith, when he began to deny the Lord and cussed he was hiding hia faith.
My view on the denial is clear....when one denies JESUS by a lack of saving faith....Jesus denies them before the Father (I NEVER KNEW YOU)
If one has acknowledged Jesus by saving faith -->I will never leave thee or forsake thee and IF WE BECOME FAITHLESS, he abides faithful because HE CANNOT DENY HIMSELF.
It utterly amazes me how the bible, like a shot gun has the ability to cover both lost and saved within one context or set of verses on a regular BASIS yet is denied by the salvation losers or self saving faith maintainers in cases such as this.
Such as.....He that believes on the Son is not condemend because he has believed on the name of the only begotten Son of God.
I can deduce two clear truths from this..
Believers are not condemned
Non believers are condemned
Those that deny Christ are denied
Those that believe yet become faithless (possibly at some point and due to numerous circumstances in life) HE ABIDES FAITHUL TO HIS PROMISES because he cannot deny himself!
We must take the bible as a whole book, allow context, verb tense, and established KNOWN TRUTH DICTATE our beliefs....
We cannot say...The bible says JESUS WILL NEVER LEAVE US OR FORSAKE US and then say OH HE WILL LEAVE US AND FORSAKE US IF WE.......!!!
SALVATION losers CONSTANTLY make the bible contradict...not only in context, but also by the very definitions of words and or verbiage!
When Peter claimed he would die with the Lord he had faith, when he began to deny the Lord and cussed he was hiding hia faith.
My view on the denial is clear....when one denies JESUS by a lack of saving faith....Jesus denies them before the Father (I NEVER KNEW YOU)
If one has acknowledged Jesus by saving faith -->I will never leave thee or forsake thee and IF WE BECOME FAITHLESS, he abides faithful because HE CANNOT DENY HIMSELF.
It utterly amazes me how the bible, like a shot gun has the ability to cover both lost and saved within one context or set of verses on a regular BASIS yet is denied by the salvation losers or self saving faith maintainers in cases such as this.
Such as.....He that believes on the Son is not condemend because he has believed on the name of the only begotten Son of God.
I can deduce two clear truths from this..
Believers are not condemned
Non believers are condemned
Those that deny Christ are denied
Those that believe yet become faithless (possibly at some point and due to numerous circumstances in life) HE ABIDES FAITHUL TO HIS PROMISES because he cannot deny himself!
We must take the bible as a whole book, allow context, verb tense, and established KNOWN TRUTH DICTATE our beliefs....
We cannot say...The bible says JESUS WILL NEVER LEAVE US OR FORSAKE US and then say OH HE WILL LEAVE US AND FORSAKE US IF WE.......!!!
SALVATION losers CONSTANTLY make the bible contradict...not only in context, but also by the very definitions of words and or verbiage!
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We can turn away from God if we so choose and He will give us a bill of divorce 
that in my understanding is losing my salvation. Maybe you understand it differently.
that in my understanding is losing my salvation. Maybe you understand it differently.
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We have the marriage contract (Bible) and you have the lawyer that died on the cross for you my dear sister.
The Torah forbid you to get married again to the same groom after you divorced him. Death is the only thing that can break the curse and Paul also mention it in his letters.
The blood has flown for you and me and we can get remarried to the Groom.
Jesus can always help you out, I know that
The Torah forbid you to get married again to the same groom after you divorced him. Death is the only thing that can break the curse and Paul also mention it in his letters.
The blood has flown for you and me and we can get remarried to the Groom.
Jesus can always help you out, I know that
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Did i miss something haha
Not really out of left field... "individual alerts" give us a lot of insight into a person.
And those notifications have continued until just recently.
And those notifications have continued until just recently.
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I already explained that Peter rebuked Jesus for telling them he had to die, and denied Christ 3 times during the cruxifiction.
All these are clear evidence that none of the 12 believed Jesus had to die, but they still preached the gospel of the kingdom.
If he doesn't want to address those, but choose to resort to name calling, that's his choice.
All these are clear evidence that none of the 12 believed Jesus had to die, but they still preached the gospel of the kingdom.
If he doesn't want to address those, but choose to resort to name calling, that's his choice.
