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THE LIE IN LORDSHIP SALVATION THEORY
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Well on one hand he is confusing refuses to answer anyquestions and is evasive about anything to do with the actual topic when questioned about himself but hey on the other hand this thread is rolling so fast my browser is having trouble viewing all the replied and notifactions in time and we are all talking about the things of God quite a lot so.... blessing in disguise?
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EleventhHour
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A clear understanding of "dead" in the context of James is important.
While yes James is encouraging works so the faith is displayed to others................... since faith cannot be seen by the human eye, but observed through works in no way means that faith must be accompanied by works as proof someone is saved.
For if this were true, James would have never had to write those letters and pretty much a great deal of the epistles are redundant.
The very fact James was exhorting works demonstrates we have a choice to make.
Works prove salvation then the opposite must be true no works, no salvation, which then means works have a role to play in whether one is saved and that is contrary to the Gospel.
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EleventhHour
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Amen .............. at least a new topic.. eschatology seems to be dominant lately.
See I can't stand this, I was answering you, you asked the question, now you want to come pick apart every answer like we came here heaping it on you.
My "proof" of God or my salvation isn't for you, nor your approval. This is exactly what I thought it was and just you trying to be right over everyone even though you won't even man up and make your point clearly. These kinds of conversations are pointless and honestly if you're not trolling, you are one who thinks you are save, yet are not, but are not here to educate everybody else on what a Christian "truly is" or something.
I'm sorry to be so harsh sounding, but it's just really annoying to think you might be sharing some insight only to find out the whole time you were just being bated for a theology class you never even signed up for.
Oh and yea yea yea, non believers are good too. Yea but the thing they can't see, the MAJOR thing that you still seem to be blind of, is the spirit man, that little part about the resurrected spirit, oh yea along with being reconnected to His Spirit. Yea man that's kind of the thing isn't it. Is all this strange to you?
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EleventhHour
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Sometimes tough love is what is needed but yeah I kinda get the same vibes and am very confused and annoyed but you had the guts to actually call him out I am to gentle to do that in the way you did but it was needed.
Honestly why start a thread like this and yet be that way? what is the prhase called? don't star a race a race you can't finnish?.... no that is wrong but you get my drift
Perhaps "dogmatic"? Like a dog with a bone to chew who will not let go of it
They certainly have a bone to pick
It's not possible to define salvation to the extent that satisfies curious humans. At this point faith (trust) takes over leaving the definitions wallowing in mud
All we can do is accept the nourishment provided by God in our new found lives and try to attain to the perfect image as best we can through the mysteries of the faith and the personal relationship. No-one is going to adore God otherwise
All we can do is accept the nourishment provided by God in our new found lives and try to attain to the perfect image as best we can through the mysteries of the faith and the personal relationship. No-one is going to adore God otherwise
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EleventhHour
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ooh she got jokes now and better than mine as well. So lets see lets list of things to be jealous of magenta, her amazingly beautiful skills, her ability with technology that far surpasses mine and now comedy. Dang girl keep it up I like a challengePerhaps "dogmatic"? Like a dog with a bone to chew who will not let go of it
They certainly have a bone to pick
You are a sweetheart, Blain... May your walk with God grow ever deeper and strengthen your commitment to Him.ooh she got jokes now and better than mine as well. So lets see lets list of things to be jealous of magenta, her amazingly beautiful skills, her ability with technology that far surpasses mine and now comedy. Dang girl keep it up I like a challenge
Ephesians 3:16-19
Jeez I wish the heart symbol meant you love something someone posted XDYou are a sweetheart, Blain... May your walk with God grow ever deeper and strengthen your commitment to Him.
Ephesians 3:16-19
We read that in James 2:26 "For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead." You have to put the horse before the cart. You can pull the cart yourself, but it is better to use your faith to pull the cart.
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I think it may generally be taken to indicate that even though it simply says "friendly"
That is your thoughts, that is not what they Bible says. "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling." (Philip 2:12) We need the Holy Spirit of God to be our Teacher and our Guide. "Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make your paths straight." (Proverbs 3:5)
I DEFIANTLY missed the point that he hasn't even come close to making yet. Can't catch what isn't thrown right?I really think you misunderstood his point..
Please if you know it, share, just make sure you read our whole conversation before you tell me..
That is a separate issue altogether. You continue to misunderstand the meaning of Lordship salvation, even after I have given you the biblical meaning.