WHAT IS SOON TO COME TO PASS IN THIS WORLD - BIBLE PROPHECY

[Blain]

I am a bit new to the term futurest but yes while many of these prophecy have yet to be realized and fulfilled in the future that is only according to our concept of time. For God is already done game set and match, to us with our extremely limited understanding and concept of time itself compared to his yes it is in the future but in reality it has already happened to God.
So grouping people together in terms like that is pointless because these terms and doctrines that we debate about are of little consequence in the long run. The point of debating these things is not to prove who is right or wrong or who's view is the actual truth because in the end we are human we will always lack the understanding of the grand scheme of things and so even if we are right in our minds it is what God thinks that matters.
Debates are to learn and grow and gain understanding and insight into these things that is why we are encouraged to seek the truth of matters it isn't to show we are right and they are wrong and if that is why we debate then we are here for the wrong reason.

Only those who understand this will actually learn and grow in these matters and only then can the holy spirit build us and prodsuce the fruits we seek without boundaries or limitations. Those who hunger for the knowledge of God are the ones who read his word absorb it learn from it and glean from it and only those kind of people are equipped to properly be in debates.
So let us ask ourselves a serious question and ponder deeply on it, why do we debate?

 

[Blain]

I was going to use them as one of my examples, but I was waiting for Dave to answer my question i asked 5 hours ago. Still waiting

XD you snooze you lose buddy

 

[Diakonos]

XD you snooze you lose buddy

Sometimes certain questions are more effective later in a conversation. Worth the risk to wait in the right circumstance.

 

[Blain]

Sometimes certain questions are more effective later in a conversation. Worth the risk to wait in the right circumstance.

True, from what I have seen in your posts you could probably explain it better than me

 

[Diakonos]

Jesus teaches that prophecy cannot be understood until after fulfillment

The three wise men studied the heavens because they knew that God speaks in the heavens every star is alined perfectly to tell his plan and story of salvation, when they saw the star of David they knew what to expect they knew the savior was finally here

In addition to the wise men, I would like to point out this:


"Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, magi from the east arrived in Jerusalem, saying,
“Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we saw His star in the east and have come to worship Him.”
When Herod the king heard this, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him.
Gathering together all the chief priests and scribes of the people, he inquired of them where the Messiah was to be born.
They said to him, “In Bethlehem of Judea; for this is what has been written by the prophet:
'And you, O Bethlehem, in the land of Judah,
are by no means least among the rulers of Judah;
for from you shall come a ruler
who will shepherd my people Israel' "

The Scribes didn't even hesitate, they just gave the answer because they were familiar with the Scripture about that subject.
People have been using Scripture to look ahead and know the plan of God for thousands of years

 

[Diakonos]

True, from what I have seen in your posts you could probably explain it better than me

Message me if you're interested in talking about this further

 

[Blain]

In addition to the wise men, I would like to point out this:


"Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, magi from the east arrived in Jerusalem, saying,
“Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we saw His star in the east and have come to worship Him.”
When Herod the king heard this, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him.
Gathering together all the chief priests and scribes of the people, he inquired of them where the Messiah was to be born.
They said to him, “In Bethlehem of Judea; for this is what has been written by the prophet:
'And you, O Bethlehem, in the land of Judah,
are by no means least among the rulers of Judah;
for from you shall come a ruler
who will shepherd my people Israel' "

The Scribes didn't even hesitate, they just gave the answer because they were familiar with the Scripture about that subject.
People have been using Scripture to look ahead and know the plan of God for thousands of years

 

[Blain]

In addition to the wise men, I would like to point out this:


"Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, magi from the east arrived in Jerusalem, saying,
“Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we saw His star in the east and have come to worship Him.”
When Herod the king heard this, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him.
Gathering together all the chief priests and scribes of the people, he inquired of them where the Messiah was to be born.
They said to him, “In Bethlehem of Judea; for this is what has been written by the prophet:
'And you, O Bethlehem, in the land of Judah,
are by no means least among the rulers of Judah;
for from you shall come a ruler
who will shepherd my people Israel' "

The Scribes didn't even hesitate, they just gave the answer because they were familiar with the Scripture about that subject.
People have been using Scripture to look ahead and know the plan of God for thousands of years

What I find interesting is that even the king Herod believed them and scriptures enough to be concerned he would be overthrown.
The wisment not only knew the scriptures but they also had the wisdom to read the stars. to many even among believers star gazing is not biblical yet if you study the stars from a biblical perspective you see the entire plan of salvation in the star constelations from the virgin giving birth to the dragon in revelations.
Father is truly amazing to me, he wrote his entire story from beginning to end in the heavens themselves

 

[cv5]

Did you know all of this is a false prophecy? Jesus teaches that prophecy cannot be understood until after fulfillment. It only gives a few dots. It is the fulfillment that connects them. So you are speculating what might happen and affirming it will happen.

Are you kidding? Jesus clearly warns us that we had better know and understand prophecy!

In this case the Daniel 9 prophecy and the 173,880 days to the triumphal entry.
(Luke 19:43-44) For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

In this case, a warning to escape for the sake of your very life from Judea.
(Mark 13:14) “But when you see the abomination of desolation standing where he ought not to be (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.

Ignorance or stupidity when it comes to prophecy can destroy nations or cost you your life and the life of your family.

 

[tourist]

You may as well get out the coffee and doughnuts while we wait . . .

Coffee and donuts works for me.

 

[Dave-L]

Are you kidding? Jesus clearly warns us that we had better know and understand prophecy!

In this case the Daniel 9 prophecy and the 173,880 days to the triumphal entry.
(Luke 19:43-44) For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

In this case, a warning to escape for the sake of your very life from Judea.
(Mark 13:14) “But when you see the abomination of desolation standing where he ought not to be (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.

Ignorance or stupidity when it comes to prophecy can destroy nations or cost you your life and the life of your family.

You can create false prophecies by speculation on these. But honestly, how many prophecies have you understood before God fulfilled them? And chances are, you still don't understand many of those too.

 

[cv5]

You can create false prophecies by speculation on these. But honestly, how many prophecies have you understood before God fulfilled them? And chances are, you still don't understand many of those too.

Let's keep this simple Dave-L. I will now provide you with an example whereby ANYONE who could read would be able to ascertain a prophecy pertaining to the future. No inscrutable mysteries, no special anointing required, no angelic tutoring, no allegorical squirming.

(Dan 9:2) in the first year of his reign I, Daniel, understood by the books the number of the years specified by the word of the Lord through Jeremiah the prophet, that He would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.

(Jer 25:12) ‘Then it will come to pass, when seventy years are completed, that I will punish the king of Babylon and that nation, the land of the Chaldeans, for their iniquity,’ says the LORD; ‘and I will make it a perpetual desolation.

There you go Dave-L. A straightforward prophecy of the future, that could be understood by anybody by reading the text and understanding it literally. And yes the event was yet future when Daniel read it.

And that is not the only place in Scripture where a mathematical prophecy details future events to the very day.

 

[Dave-L]

Let's keep this simple Dave-L. I will now provide you with an example whereby ANYONE who could read would be able to ascertain a prophecy pertaining to the future. No inscrutable mysteries, no special anointing required, no angelic tutoring, no allegorical squirming.

(Dan 9:2) in the first year of his reign I, Daniel, understood by the books the number of the years specified by the word of the Lord through Jeremiah the prophet, that He would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.

(Jer 25:12) ‘Then it will come to pass, when seventy years are completed, that I will punish the king of Babylon and that nation, the land of the Chaldeans, for their iniquity,’ says the LORD; ‘and I will make it a perpetual desolation.

There you go Dave-L. A straightforward prophecy of the future, that could be understood by anybody by reading the text and understanding it literally. And yes the event was yet future when Daniel read it.

And that is not the only place in Scripture where a mathematical prophecy details future events to the very day.

The flood prophecy was another prophecy that came true as written. Why a gap in the 70 7s and not the other?

 

[cv5]

The flood prophecy was another prophecy that came true as written. Why a gap in the 70 7s and not the other?

Have you never read this scripture Dave-L?

(2 Pet 3:16)
He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.

 

[Dave-L]

Have you never read this scripture Dave-L?

(2 Pet 3:16)
He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Regardless you could not understand any but 11 prophecies until after fulfillment.

 

[Diakonos]

The flood prophecy was another prophecy that came true as written. Why a gap in the 70 7s and not the other?

There are three 490 year periods spoken of in the Bible that have a gap between the years. Daniel prophesy isn't anything new in this sense

 

[cv5]

There are three 490 year periods spoken of in the Bible that have a gap between the years. Daniel prophesy isn't anything new in this sense

These people who do not understand prophecy, fail to understand it because they demand that it should say what it doesn't say, but instead what they think it should say, rather than what it plainly says. How in the world are you going to understand biblical prophecy with a methodology like that????

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

Praise God, the Rapture will bring the completed manifestation of Christ’s Finished Work for us at Calvary! For the Believer, the Rapture is Independence Day! Once and for all, we will be totally and completely freed from our corrupted nature, freed from all effects of sin! Glory to God! Let’s take a closer look at the events taking place in Heaven (which parallel the events of the Tribulation on Earth). All Believers must appear before the Judgment Seat of Christ according to II Corinthians 5:10. Remember this is not for the purpose of dealing with sin, however, a careful ledger has been kept of every work the Believer has performed since he became a Christian (Mat. 12:36; Rom. 14:12; II Cor. 5:10).

Believers will be judged on the basis of:

1. Doctrinal Beliefs – true or false (Rom. 2:14-16; 14:1-10).
2. Conduct toward others – kind or unkind (Mat. 18:10; Mk. 9:41; II Tim. 4:14).
3. Stewardship – faithful or unfaithful (Mat. 25:14-29; Lk. 12:42-44; I Cor. 4:1-5).
4. Words – good or bad (Mat. 12:36-37; Eph. 4:29).
5. Talents – used or wasted (Mat. 5:15-16; Mk. 4:25).
6. Attitudes – Christlike or selfish (Mat. 6:1-7; Eph. 4:30-32).
7. Motives – right or wrong (Mat. 6:16-18; Lk. 14:12-14).
8. Traits – Spiritual or carnal (Rom. 2:1-6; Col. 3:8-16).
9. Every Deed – worthy or worthless (Mk. 9:41; Col. 3:23-25).

The deeds performed in a worthy manner will be rewarded, but those deeds Christ judges unworthy will be burned and will cause the Believer lost rewards (I Cor. 3:12-15).

The following rewards have been promised for faithful service to the Lord:

1. Victor’s Crown (I Cor. 9:25).
2. Crown of Righteousness (II Tim. 4:8).
3. Crown of Rejoicing (I Thess. 2:19).
4. Crown of Life (James 1:12).
5. Crown of Glory (I Pet. 5:4).
6. Martyr’s Crown (Rev. 2:10).
7. Crown of Gold (Rev. 4:4).

And because Scripture clearly indicates that it is possible for someone else to take our crown (Rev. 3:11), it behooves every Christian to be diligent in his service to the King of kings! Believers will also be given a mansion in which to live eternally (Jn. 14:2), and Christ will determine the amount of earthly rulership to give each Saint based on his faithfulness to God in this present life (Lk. 19:12-26). Believers will reign as kings and priests with Christ forever (Rev. 1:6; 5:10). Following the Judgment Seat of Christ will be the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. This speaks of the Bride of Christ, all the redeemed from every Dispensation who will live in the New Jerusalem. “Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to Him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and His Wife has made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the Righteousness of Saints. And he said unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. And he said unto me, These are the true sayings of God” (Rev. 19:7-9). What a time of reunion, celebration, and worship Believers have in store! Are you ready? Are you in a committed, Covenant relationship with Christ? Are you a Bride adorned for her Husband? Is your heart singing, “. . . when I hear that last trumpet sound, my feet won’t stay on the ground”? If your answers are “yes,” then, as my husband often says, “Well, Glory!”

JSM

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

The next major Biblical event in history will be “The Rapture of the Church.” Are you watching? Are you ready?

Part of this waiting and watching also includes working. Remember Rebekah—she worked hard drawing from the well that day, and Eliezer watched carefully as she drew pitcher after pitcher to witness whether or not the Lord had made his journey prosperous.

Likewise, I believe the Holy Spirit is watching us carefully to see whether or not we are drawing from the well to give the water of life to a lost and dying world. Are we letting the Holy Spirit lead us and allowing His gifts to work properly in our lives so that others will profit? Are we wearing the bracelets and the earring that He first gave to us—His righteousness and His holiness?

Isaiah 61:10 says, “I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.”

People want to know what else, prophetically, must happen before the rapture takes place, and the answer is, nothing. The Lord could return at any time. Are you prepared to meet the Lord in the air?

Remember how Abraham delayed in sending for Isaac’s bride. Even so, God the Father—in His tremendous grace and mercy has delayed in sending Jesus to catch His bride away. But in the Father’s perfect timing, Jesus will come. Soon and very soon, there will be a shout, and the trump will sound. Although the Bible doesn’t say, some believe that shout will be, “Behold the bridegroom cometh!”

And the Spirit and the bride say, Come.

JSM

 

[DorothyMae]

These things regardless what order people debate they are in are without a doubt on the horizon we would have to be spiritually blind to think otherwise all the signs are there.
I think it is important that take Jesus's advice and look at the fig tree because it's season is in bloom

He also says to flee Jerusalem. I guess that one you already got covered since you don’t live there anyway.