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Only 5 years.
I would say I wished mine was only that. It was 15 years.
Every day of a prodical was miserable. It may be exteme but it was hell on earth for me. Separation from God.
But like you I never stopped denying Jesus but I couldn't deny what I thought I was.
What was I? A dirty miserable sinner, not loved by God because I was a sinner, a so called Christian who sinned. Not loved and would only be loved if I stopped sinning (full stop) and worked harder.
It's interesting you mention tongues. I sought someone out for help, they asked me if I spoke in tongues. I said no. They said that was evidence that I was not saved.
I carried that baggage for a long long long time. Very sad that the army of Jesus shoot the wounded.
I never ever denied Jesus. Called out every day "JESUS PLEASE HELP ME"
Even asked him to kill me so I would know where I was going, upstairs or downstairs.
Praise God he restored me. And I believe based in his timing and now I rejoice in what I went through.
Romans 8:28-30
28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. 29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.
He had to work good in all the things that were not good that led me to be a prodigal (sexually abused, thrown out by mum at 14, severe beatings as a child by mum, sexually abused by a so called Christian man who fostered me from 14 to 18 and so on)
But I rejoice and thank Jesus. He worked good in the shit pit of my life, he conforms me to the image of him and is continuing to do so.
Now I walk with people who are going through what I went through and I can only do so because I know what it is like.
I know that I thier fears, addictions and why they do what they do.
And I can walk with them.
I consider what I went through was for a purpose and that is to help others.
God is good and knows what he is doing and in his time.
I would say I wished mine was only that. It was 15 years.
Every day of a prodical was miserable. It may be exteme but it was hell on earth for me. Separation from God.
But like you I never stopped denying Jesus but I couldn't deny what I thought I was.
What was I? A dirty miserable sinner, not loved by God because I was a sinner, a so called Christian who sinned. Not loved and would only be loved if I stopped sinning (full stop) and worked harder.
It's interesting you mention tongues. I sought someone out for help, they asked me if I spoke in tongues. I said no. They said that was evidence that I was not saved.
I carried that baggage for a long long long time. Very sad that the army of Jesus shoot the wounded.
I never ever denied Jesus. Called out every day "JESUS PLEASE HELP ME"
Even asked him to kill me so I would know where I was going, upstairs or downstairs.
Praise God he restored me. And I believe based in his timing and now I rejoice in what I went through.
Romans 8:28-30
28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. 29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.
He had to work good in all the things that were not good that led me to be a prodigal (sexually abused, thrown out by mum at 14, severe beatings as a child by mum, sexually abused by a so called Christian man who fostered me from 14 to 18 and so on)
But I rejoice and thank Jesus. He worked good in the shit pit of my life, he conforms me to the image of him and is continuing to do so.
Now I walk with people who are going through what I went through and I can only do so because I know what it is like.
I know that I thier fears, addictions and why they do what they do.
And I can walk with them.
I consider what I went through was for a purpose and that is to help others.
God is good and knows what he is doing and in his time.
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With all due respect you came to this thread to make a point as I recall.... so why did you make your statement.. to see if it would go unchallenged?
With regards to this ....
A person has no ability to remove the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, then ultimately it requires and act of God which you agree cannot happen
So explain to me how this works because I see contradiction myself.
With regards to this ....
A person has no ability to remove the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, then ultimately it requires and act of God which you agree cannot happen
So explain to me how this works because I see contradiction myself.
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Keep dreaming Gong Show and keep rejecting the fact that the LAW justifies NO FLESH in his sight even though you, in your mind, believe that men can keep the law.....my bible teaches clearly that the laws purpose is to condemn, shut the mouths of men, give the knowledge of sin AND POINT TO THE RIGHTEOUSNESS of Christ IMPUTED BY FAITH which is the ONLY THING ON THIS PLANET that JUSTIFIES A MAN BEFORE GOD genius!
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The answer is obvious....and his mix of grace and law = water and oil.......exactly why the number is MANY that come before Jesus claiming to know him while having a right to enter...LORD, LORD HAVE WE NOT DONE X, Y, Z in your name <--- exactly what he and The Gong Show will peddle.....along with Ralph, Sea Perch, Judges, Fran, Studyman, Shamah, Peter, and all the other Jokers that blend faith PLUS anything to gain, maintain, embellish, or keep a losable salvation that must be maintained by man......!
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As long as he continues to conflate two covenants, and Isreal as a NATION with individual salvation while being totally dishonest with the fact that this is a complete biblical fallacy and contextually dishonest.....he will walk in his false gospel that is dependant UPON HIS SELF EFFORT.....
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I'm convinced he does.
Given the sin sick world we live in there will always be pain and suffering.
And until Jesus comes back it is not going to change.
But he changes us to help others who he gives us.
Love ya bro as well. I thank God for you and what he has done in you and will continue to do so.
And I enjoy walking with you.
Given the sin sick world we live in there will always be pain and suffering.
And until Jesus comes back it is not going to change.
But he changes us to help others who he gives us.
Love ya bro as well. I thank God for you and what he has done in you and will continue to do so.
And I enjoy walking with you.
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1JOHN 3:23.
And this is His Commandment, That we should believe on The Name of His Son Jesus Christ,
and LOVE one another, as He gave us Commandment.
ACTS 16:31.
And they said, Believe on The Lord Jesus Christ, and you shalt be saved, and your house.
ACTS 2:38.
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in The Name of Jesus Christ
for the remission of sins, and you shall receive the gift of The Holy Ghost.
EPH. 1:14.
Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession,
unto the praise of His glory.
MATT. 19:17.
And He said unto him, Why call you Me good? there is none good but One, that is, God:
but if you will enter into life, 'keep the Commandments'.
just for us personally, we believe that we must comply to these basic scriptures -
if any one else has other scriptures that elucidate on the subject, then we're here
to hear...
And this is His Commandment, That we should believe on The Name of His Son Jesus Christ,
and LOVE one another, as He gave us Commandment.
ACTS 16:31.
And they said, Believe on The Lord Jesus Christ, and you shalt be saved, and your house.
ACTS 2:38.
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in The Name of Jesus Christ
for the remission of sins, and you shall receive the gift of The Holy Ghost.
EPH. 1:14.
Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession,
unto the praise of His glory.
MATT. 19:17.
And He said unto him, Why call you Me good? there is none good but One, that is, God:
but if you will enter into life, 'keep the Commandments'.
just for us personally, we believe that we must comply to these basic scriptures -
if any one else has other scriptures that elucidate on the subject, then we're here
to hear...
MAYBE it could because you refuse to listen! Obedience is part of our Agape LOVE for GOD, and our Agape LOVE for the Brethren. IT NEVER HAS BEEN PART OF OUR SALVATION.
2 Timothy 1:9 (HCSB)
9 He has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace, which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began.
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