Catholicism vs Protestantism

[Jackson123]

Yes in the sense "...that we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity".

At the same time, we want to
neither confound the Persons, nor divide the Essence.

Does that make sense?

Than ccc 841 is lie

Muslim not adore God trinity

 

[Jackson123]

Right, and if there's something you write that I don't understand, I do ask you to clarify.

Did you follow what mailmandan was saying?

Mailman was catholic, he left because he is not agree with catholic teaching

Mailman say, salvation by believe in Jesus, die oN the cross and resurrection.

Catholic put a Lot of additional teaching

For Example muslim adore God

Muslim adore their God not Christian God or abraham's God, muslim god don't believe Jesus die oN the cross.
So catholic is Lie and attacking Christian faith.

 

[JamOn]

Most people say that episcopalians are Protestants, though some say they aren't.

What do you currently believe? Like you, I've been to several different groups. Maybe we can learn from each other's experiences!

As far as denomination I’m not attending a curtain one, what I like is just a simple approach to a church service and not all the added drama or formal presentation.

 

[Dan_473]

Than ccc 841 is lie

Muslim not adore God trinity

That's a possibility. Another possibility is that they adore the true trinitarian God, but not according to knowledge.

I believe the same issue is present here
Romans 10: 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

Do Jews have a zeal of the trinity? Again, you are welcome to take your time.

 

[Jackson123]

That's a possibility. Another possibility is that they adore the true trinitarian God, but not according to knowledge.

I believe the same issue is present here
Romans 10: 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

Do Jews have a zeal of the trinity? Again, you are welcome to take your time.

Ask jews If he believe Jesus is God. They hate Jesus and kill Him.
I never heard modern judaism teach about trinity.

Muslim teach against trinity

So catholic is lie

 

[Dan_473]

Mailman was catholic, he left because he is not agree with catholic teaching

Mailman say, salvation by believe in Jesus, die oN the cross and resurrection.

Catholic put a Lot of additional teaching

For Example muslim adore God

Muslim adore their God not Christian God or abraham's God, muslim god don't believe Jesus die oN the cross.
So catholic is Lie and attacking Christian faith.

Did you follow what mailmandan we're saying about the difference between
Believe
And
Believe in
?

 

[Dan_473]

Ask jews If he believe Jesus is God. They hate Jesus and kill Him.
I never heard modern judaism teach about trinity.

Muslim teach against trinity

So catholic is lie

I'm asking you what you believe about the Jews.

Do they have a zeal of God?
Do they have a zeal of the trinitarian God?

I don't think we can really proceed until you come to a decision about those kinds of questions regarding Romans 10:2.
But again, take your time.

 

[Jackson123]

Did you follow what mailmandan we're saying about the difference between
Believe
And
Believe in
?

Muslim believe there is a God, but not the trinity God.

Like navajo believe there are gods but not trinity God, for them eagle is God.

Paul say

Romans 10
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

In other word they make their own God, not real God

 

[Jackson123]

I'm asking you what you believe about the Jews.

Do they have a zeal of God?
Do they have a zeal of the trinitarian God?

I don't think we can really proceed until you come to a decision about those kinds of questions regarding Romans 10:2.
But again, take your time.

After verse 2 Paul say

3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

 

[Jackson123]

That's a possibility. Another possibility is that they adore the true trinitarian God, but not according to knowledge.

No they don't adore the trinity God. They don't believe trinity God. Ask them !

 

[Dan_473]

Muslim believe there is a God, but not the trinity God.

Like navajo believe there are gods but not trinity God, for them eagle is God.

Paul say

Romans 10
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

In other word they make their own God, not real God

Thanks for your response, but it's not quite what I asked.

Do you understand how English speakers use
Believe
and
Believe in

and the difference between them?

 

[Dan_473]

After verse 2 Paul say

3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

Again, thanks for your response, but it's not quite what I asked.

Let's start here.
Is this verse translated correctly?
Romans 10: 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

 

[Jackson123]

Thanks for your response, but it's not quite what I asked.

Do you understand how English speakers use
Believe
and
Believe in

and the difference between them?

Yep, you tell me before

 

[Jackson123]

Again, thanks for your response, but it's not quite what I asked.

Let's start here.
Is this verse translated correctly?
Romans 10: 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

Like I say, navajo may have zeal to God but not according to knowledge

It right translation, and God not according to knowledge is eagle

 

[Jackson123]

Again, thanks for your response, but it's not quite what I asked.

Let's start here.
Is this verse translated correctly?
Romans 10: 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

Anyway I don't believe modern jews worship true God
True God have Jesus as one of the element

 

[Jackson123]

No one come to the Father but by Jesus.

What is come to the Father mean. God is omnipresent

Come to Phoenix mean go to Phoenix and Phoenix is not omnipresent

To me come to Father is figurative

Jesus say come to Me ye who are labor ...

What is that mean?
Is Jesus in heaven? Come to Jesus mean go to heaven? How? Use private jet?

Come to Jesus is follow the teaching of Jesus, adore and eorship Him

And ITS mean come to the Father or worship and adore the Father.

Is muslim adore God? No

The only way adore God is by adore Jesus. Muslim not believe Jesus as God how they adore God.

God is Father Jesus and Holy Spirit

If muslim want to adore only Father, than they must say we only Adore God Father

If they say adore God must mean the whole God, since muslim do not believe Jesus as God, so muslim have different god and It mean catholic lie

 

[Dan_473]

No they don't adore the trinity God. They don't believe trinity God. Ask them !

If we accept the answer that Jews or Muslims give us, that implies that we believe that they have accurate knowledge on the subject.

But if we say that they lack accurate knowledge, then it doesn't make sense to accept what they say.

 

[Dan_473]

Yep, you tell me before

Good!

Then you may wish to reword this post.

John 5
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

If one believe in Moses believe in Jesus.

Moses not the author of the bible, God is

So If you not believe in what Moses wrote you not believe in God

If you believe in Moses you believe in Jesus, because Moses wrote about jesus

Is that posible for a man that don't believe in God, worshiping God?

To me imposible

So ccc 841 is Lie
Muslim doesn't believe in Jesus but adore God

You say God only one and Jesus is one of the element of God isn't It?

 

[Jackson123]

If we accept the answer that Jews or Muslims give us, that implies that we believe that they have accurate knowledge on the subject.

But if we say that they lack accurate knowledge, then it doesn't make sense to accept what they say.

Hindu don't have accurate knowledge of God and they say they worship God
To me they are not

 

[Jackson123]

If we accept the answer that Jews or Muslims give us, that implies that we believe that they have accurate knowledge on the subject.

But if we say that they lack accurate knowledge, then it doesn't make sense to accept what they say.

Please give more detail what you want To say.